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Can a Dubai Silver ETF Send Global Spot Prices Higher?

18 Tuesday Nov 2008

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Can a Dubai Silver ETF Send Global Spot Prices Higher? – Seeking Alpha

By: Peter Cooper of  Arabian Money.net

The Dubai Multi Commodities Center is understood to be putting the finishing touches to an exchange traded fund for silver with a launch likely next month as demand for silver has surged in the past six months.

Local bullion dealers are having to fly heavy silver bullion bars in from around the globe to meet demand as traditional sources closer to Dubai have been exhausted. The DMCC has successfully established itself as a regional hub for commodities trading over the past few years, and has its own swanky new business park with its gold, silver and diamond towers.

City of Gold

Around 20 per cent of the world’s physical gold trade is conducted through Dubai which used to be the epicenter of gold smuggling to India thirty years ago when import taxes were sky high. Nowadays Dubai is a convenient logistics center for commodities traders and still tax free.

The details of the silver ETF are being kept under wraps for the launch but plans seem advanced. Local jewelers have long used silver in a 25:75 amalgam with gold to create white-gold which is popular with consumers.

But clearly the ETF is an strictly an investment product, and demand for the shiniest of metals has been rising strongly, as evidenced by the high premiums now being paid on coins and bullion locally.

ETF price advantage

The latter also gives the ETF a natural advantage. Its price will be closely linked to the lower spot price for physical silver, and not be inflated by the high premiums now paid on physical silver.

Investors will no doubt appreciate this keen pricing advantage, and hope to also profit from the leverage silver offers to the gold price. In previous gold price booms silver has outperformed the yellow metal, and the gold-to-silver price ratio has fallen sharply.

Will the new Dubai silver ETF have a big enough impact on the tiny global silver market to send prices higher like the Hunt Brothers did in the late 1970s when they cornered the market? Well, nothing succeeds like success and a silver ETF in Dubai looks like being the right product in the right place at the right time.

My Note: A Word to the Wise is sufficient!

See My Ealier Post from Today: All The Gold In Saudi Arabia, if they buy as much Silver as they have Gold – Look Out…

My Disclosure: I am long all Precious Metals, Mining Companies, Etf’s, and in my opinion you should be too! – jschulmansr 

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Dudley Baker: “It’s either the end of the world or a fabulous buying opportunity”

18 Tuesday Nov 2008

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Dudley Baker: “It’s either the end of the world or a fabulous buying opportunity”

Source: The Gold Report  11/18/2008

 

His pitch is irresistible: “Buy a basket of juniors with warrants and it could be the easiest 500% you’ll ever make.” In this exclusive look at one of the most overlooked and misunderstood investment vehicles, Dudley Baker of PreciousMetalsWarrants.com explains to The Gold Report exactly what warrants are and how they increase the odds of winning vastly higher returns. With a little arm-twisting, Baker even reveals some of his most prized “unbelievable” opportunities.”

The Gold Report: Could you start by explaining what a warrant is and how it differs from a futures contract?

Dudley Baker: A warrant is basically a security. It gives the holder the right, but not the obligation, to purchase the underlying stock at a specific price within a specific period of time. It sounds very similar to a call option except that it really is a security and a warrant will trade in much the same way as common shares. A warrant is assigned a symbol and will trade on the exchange or, in the U.S., it will have U.S.-assigned symbol where it can be traded over-the-counter.

TGR: Are all the warrants traded in the over-the-counter market?

DB: No, no. Most will always be private. Many precious metals investors know ‘warrants’ because they are frequently issued in a private placement. But most of those warrants never trade on any exchange and they’re not transferable. On my website only cover those warrants that are trading, the ones you and I could go out and buy. For example, Warren Buffet conducted a private transaction with General Electric and Goldman Sachs. There will never be a market for those. That’s the distinction, whether it’s a warrant with a private placement or an initial public offering. In rare cases a company can get the warrants listed if they were issued in connection with a private placement.

TGR: So Buffet purchases the stock and then is awarded the warrants. Is it GE or Buffet who decides to make those warrants transferable?

DB: In this case it probably would be Buffet. Since he actually owns those warrants it’s his decision.

TGR: Let’s to back to the private placement example. Aren’t warrants used as a sweetener for a private placement investment? In that case, who makes the decision as to whether those warrants are transferable?

DB: The company will make that decision. In Warren Buffet’s case, let’s say that he’s the only holder of the Goldman Sachs and GE warrants. Even if the company said we want these to trade, there’s nobody to trade them because there’s only one guy, Buffet, who owns them and he’s probably not going to trade them. The chances are that he would just convert the warrants or the company would buy them back at some point. But in the case of the private placement of a mining company, there may be hundreds or even a thousand participants. If the company decides to list those warrants, those 500 to 1,000 individuals could decide to trade them. So now we’ve got some liquidity. And we always need that liquidity. So there are a lot of opportunities even for the bigger companies that have warrants trading.

TGR: So when warrants are initially issued, they could be privately placed, or publicly traded.

DB: Right.

TGR: Are most of the warrants that are publicly traded related to financial transactions other than mergers?

DB: They could be issued in connection with the financing for an initial public offering. A lot of warrants start with the private placements, the initial public offerings, and mergers. So warrants that are trading come about through a number of different circumstances.

TGR: Given the current stock market and the merger and acquisition environment, would you expect increased interest in the purchase of warrants?

DB: You mean what is the future for warrants?

TGR: Yes.

DB: Let’s put it this way. The most important thing is to have a solid understanding of the underlying fundamentals of the company. Do they have a good story? Is there potential for the stock to greatly increase in value? And then we have to ask, maybe before we buy the commons shares: will trading a warrant give us a lot more leverage? If so, what is the remaining life of that warrant? It is especially important in this environment to have as long a life on a warrant as possible. Many of the warrants in our database have three years or more of a remaining life, which is really great. Some of them have four or five years. One actually has an 8-1/2 years going out to 2017. I see great opportunities going forward.

Are we going to blast off in a rally this week, next week, next month? I don’t know. But I’m very confident that in the coming months and years that gold and the junior mining shares are going much, much higher. So I’m very comfortable buying warrants in the juniors. It is critical to have as long a life as possible. I cannot stress enough how important it is to look at that underlying common stock. If the company’s common stock does not go up, there’s no way the warrants are going up. So we have to be confident that the company will be able to execute its business plan. Then we hope for a skyrocketing market here in the coming months and years.

TGR: So the real advantage of a warrant as opposed to the common shares is the leverage.

DB: Exactly and that’s why we’d start looking at a warrant. It gives us a lot more bang for our buck, a lot more leverage. I’m always looking for a minimum of two times the leverage. So if we’re looking for a common stock to go up 100%, I’m leveraged to make at least 200% by buying the warrant.

TGR: How would you compare a warrant to a call option?

DB: Good question. A call option is just going to trade on the Chicago Board Options Exchange, whereas a warrant is actually going to trade like a common stock on the TSX. The main difference we’ve got is time and we always want as much time as possible. There are so many call options out there on the mining shares, but maybe they’ve got 90 days or 180 days, one year at most. That’s not enough time for me. In this treacherous market environment that we’ve had over the last two years, options are really just speculating. I like to think that if we can find a long-term warrant on a good company that has a two-year minimum life—if not three years or more— now we’re investing. This way, time is on my side. On my website I’ve got some examples of my trades and the common denominator of those that generated roughly 1,000% or more return was the fact that all of those warrants had over a three year remaining life when I bought them. Time is the key to my success with warrants.

TGR: I would think time really plays very well right now with the market being at 52-week, if not 5-year, if not 30-year lows.

DB: Incredible, yes.

TGR: It probably can’t go much lower in the next three years.

DB: That’s exactly how I see it. You can make a blanket statement that nearly all of the juniors and warrants are off by at least 90% in value. Either you believe this is the end of the world and the game is over or this is just a fabulous buying opportunity. I was buying this morning. I’ve usually do several transactions each week, so I just continue to build inventory, accumulate mining shares and warrants, which I’ll sell in the future at substantially higher prices. So, if we can find a warrant that, say, has a three-year or longer remaining life, it’s going to be hard to imagine how high it might go in a few years. It used to be that if a stock were trading for less than 10 cents, you’d be crazy to consider it. In this environment, a lot of juniors are selling for less than 10 cents; good companies with cash in the bank. The opportunities out there today are truly incredible.

TGR: You have some mid-market producers trading under a dollar and they have cash flow.

DB: It’s just unbelievable. I’m probably one of the more optimistic guys. I am very positive about where we’re going. It may not be next week, but in the coming two to five years it’s going to be a totally different game. We are just building inventory getting set here for what’s coming.

TGR: How do our readers discover what warrants are out there, particularly in precious metals?

DB: I would suggest that they visit my website, PreciousMetalsWarrants.com. I’ve put together a learning center over the last several months. After I created the database listing all of the companies in the natural resource sector that have warrants trading in the U.S. and in Canada, I realized that a lot of people don’t even know what warrants are. So I built the learning center to answer a lot of basic questions.

Warrants actually go back to the 1920s, so they’ve been around for a long time. Options and futures have gotten all the publicity in the past five to ten years. I’m dusting off the term ‘warrants’ again and bringing it back into play so that investors can see the possibilities. Now that Warren Buffet has reintroduced the word ‘warrant’, it’s great for me. The more people we educate about warrants, the better it is for all of us.

TGR: More liquidity, more traders.

DB: Exactly, exactly.

TGR: Can you share with us some of the companies that you particularly like who are trading warrants?

DB: Let me start with some that are your sponsors. I’m not too knowledgeable about the companies and the leverage fluctuates, so we always have to take a look. I like to think that’s why subscribers need me. I’ve got some special leverage calculations that I do. What may be a good deal tomorrow is not necessarily a good deal next week. I calculate the pricing and the relationship of the warrant to the common shares.

Franco Nevada Corp. (FNV.TO), a royalty and investment company, has a warrant extending to 2012. I’m not suggesting that you run out and buy this warrant, but it does look interesting. Do your own due diligence. See what the leverage looks like and whether you want to get involved. Another one—I don’t know of another analyst that follows this and I have minimal knowledge myself—is Colossus Minerals Inc. (TSX:CSI). It has a warrant out to 2011. So that’s quite a few years. They have gold properties in Brazil. The situation looks interesting.

I like Piedmont Mining Co. (OTCBB :PIED). It’s a small junior exploration company and all of its properties are in Nevada. Robert Shields is president and I feel very comfortable with the management. The price has been decimated, as has most of the sector. But I believe it will be a great opportunity. Another one that you don’t hear much about is Vangold Resources (TSX.V:VAN). It is amazing. I’ve got a small position in it myself. It’s got gold, oil and gas, and beryllium. Again it’s selling literally for pennies and you’ve just got to scratch your head and ask how can this be. A lot of your sponsors are great companies and I just have to believe that virtually all of them present buying opportunities.

The last one is Great Panther Resources (TSX.V:GPR). I love the company and its location. I live in Mexico – just outside of Guadalajara, so it’s about a 3-1/2 hour drive from my home. This is one of my favorite silver companies. I’ve visited Bob Archer, the president, several times and have seen the properties. They’re going to be mining silver way after all of us are gone from this planet. It’s a great operation selling for 10% of its all time high. There are so many wonderful stories out there that will become incredible opportunities in the coming months and years. You just hope that investors realize what they’re looking at because it’s going to be unbelievable. I always say buying a basket of the juniors today or a basket of the long-term warrants is probably the easiest 500% you’ll ever make in your life.

TGR: I liked the idea that warrants allow a company the time to grow because no one really knows when to call the bottom. Is it going to be this quarter, next quarter; will it turn around in 2009? But everyone’s saying in a couple of years we’re going to look back and say, wow, that was cheap back then.

DB: There’s one warrant that just started trading. I bought it for 10 cents. It has over a 4-1/2 year remaining life. I plan on selling it for dollars, many dollars. It’s almost like a giveaway. Maybe it’s just my attitude. I have such strong beliefs about where we’re going. Yes, the draw down that we’ve got right now bothers me, but I’m focused on the longer term. So this is just giving us opportunities to continue to buy at these ridiculously low prices.

TGR: Can you share with us this ridiculously low-priced warrant you bought today?

DB: You’re going to put me on the spot, huh? Okay, the name is Gold Wheaton Gold Corp. (GLWGF) (TSX.V:GLW). Everybody knows Silver Wheaton. This is a totally different company with totally different management but essentially the same business model. Gold Wheaton stock is probably trading around 33 cents. The exercise price is one dollar.

So you ask why in the world would I want to buy this warrant that has a one-dollar exercise price when the common stock is now selling for, say, 30 to 35 cents? The reason is that we’ve got a 4-1/2 year remaining life and the leverage is going to return much better than a 2:1. I have my database and I’ve got leverage calculations on another spreadsheet showing different price points going forward. This is how I look at a warrant. I ask how is this warrant going to perform if the common stock doubles, triples, quadruples, or goes up ten times? I’m looking at the underlying leverage. Is that going to give me my 2:1 or better opportunity? So this morning the Gold Wheaton warrant just started trading. It looks good to me. Who knows? It could go down a little bit more from where what it started trading. But we’re somewhere around the 10 to12 cents range, which just sounds unbelievable when we’ve got a 4-1/2 years or more remaining life. So you buy it, you put it away, and know it’s going to be easy money.

TGR: Dudley, this has been very interesting.

The Gold Report has worked out a special deal with Dudley Baker of Precious MetalsWarrants.com to offer our readers a free 30-day look at his database—full access to his personal portfolio—or what he calls a “Look Over My Shoulder.” You can see everything he owns and get an email any time he does a transaction. Sign up now.

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Precious Metals Will Depose Cash from Its Temporary Throne

18 Tuesday Nov 2008

Posted by jschulmansr in capitalism, commodities, Copper, Currency and Currencies, deflation, Finance, Fundamental Analysis, gold, hard assets, inflation, Investing, investments, Latest News, Markets, mining stocks, precious metals, silver, Technical Analysis, Today, U.S. Dollar, Uncategorized

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Precious Metals Will Depose Cash from Its Temporary Throne

By: Peter Cooper of  Arabian Money.net

‘We have just been in Bahrain and everybody is cashed up!’ one banker told me today. My reply was that if everybody is now in cash, then it just has to be the wrong place to be. There are some very good reasons to worry about a large cash position.

Quite apart from the contrarian argument that the crowd is always wrong, you have to consider what is happening to the supply of cash. We know that with the sell-offs in global capital markets there is plenty of demand for cash, but what about the supply?

Money supply out of control

Another banker today showed me a chart of US money supply growth over the past few months, and highlighted a 111% increase. This compared with something like 15% money supply growth in the early 1930s as the US authorities grappled with the Great Depression.

There is an absolute tsunami of money coming into the system. What happens when the supply of something exceeds the demand? The price drops. And that is exactly what is going to happen to the US dollar – the authorities are about to inflate away their debt problem.

It is so simple: The debt stays at the same nominal amount, you print more money and the real value of the debt falls. Of course, in the real world that also means a bond market collapse as inflation will make both the coupon and real value fall.

I wonder how long it will be until cash is deposed as king of the investment world? My guess is that it will not be long after the sell-off ends. How long will that take? It could be at the end of the year as the hedge funds attempt to square their positions, or it might be next spring after another lurch downwards in stock prices.

The bottom for stocks will be the top for cash and treasury bonds. Then inflation will start to emerge and depose cash from its temporary throne. Who will be the new king?

Gold and silver

Step forward precious metals to take a bow. Everybody knows that gold is inversely correlated to the US dollar and that silver is leveraged against the gold price. But why have precious metals taken so long to claim their crown in this financial meltdown?

The straight answer is that hedge funds have been selling assets across the board and turning gold into dollars, or at least the paper gold of futures contracts into greenbacks. The physical demand for gold and silver has been growing strongly all the time, hence the silver coin shortage and the $3.5 billion Saudi gold purchase.

Once the hedge funds stop selling (you always do eventually run out of assets to sell), then gold and silver prices will rally, and the rush out of cash and into precious metals will do something pretty spectacular to the price. Gold and silver stocks, languishing at a 40-year low, should jump and deliver phenomenal performance for new investors and repay the patience of long-term holders.

 

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    Nov 17 08:31 AM

    storms are brewing in the finacial markets. The gales have produced a few waves and troughs. I think the real storm is coming! Unfortunately I think the actions seen so far have mostly added steam to the storm! I see folks finding safe harbor or riding the waves. I see little effort in actually weakening the storm. to weaken the storm one must weaken the cause. What caused the current financial situation? Is it the same things which made life soo good for so long? was it the laziness of many? Was it ignorance of those who think they know? was it greed of those with wealth? was it greed of those who wanted the wealth? was it ignorance of truth? Was it ignorance in beliefs? Was it power abuse? Was it abuse of force? was it special intererest abuse? was it general interest abuse? I could go on A small part ofan ovious problem has been recieving enormous thought while most of the problem is ignored with little concideration of the reasons which can not be blamed on somebody else.
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    Nov 17 08:56 AM

    i think we’ve already seen the worst – from now on, we wont have more high-profile bank failures – already had bear, lehman with merrill, aig, fnme, fdmc saved…

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    the govt will need to keep pumping these with cash – which at some point will lead to hyperinflation – gold is a great long-term investment… as for short-run, im still bullish dollars… when shit hits the fan, investors flock to dollar and yen!

     

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    Nov 17 12:20 PM

    Gold and platinum are great longer term investments, but most people want more liquidity and shorter term results. However, we are harshly finding out that it is difficult to impossible to gain both at the same time in the same vehicle, but people still seek that nearly impossible(and lazy) dream and lose countless billions in the process.

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    My advice is to never, ever try to get the same investment advantages in one investment vehicle. Does not work. Have one for one purpose, one for another, etc. For example, gold and cash; stocks, gold and cash; bonds, cash and real estate, real estate, stocks and cash, etc., etc. in many combinations that work right for you(Cash means CD’s or MMF).

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    Nov 17 01:36 PM

    Peter, it seems our thoughts appear to align very well. Is it no surprise that the money supply is up over 100% over the past few months? According to Obama, TARP has already spent some $300B of the $750B. Hence money is being pumped at a RAPID pace into our withering economy.

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    I fully agree that this action coupled with the US debt increasing each day, will only result in furthe devaluation of the US. Dollar.

    We must recall that the massive sell offs in hedge funds aren’t usually voluntary and fund managers are being FORCED to sell because many investors believe that they are forced to sell. For example in Canada, investors with RRIFs, must pay taxes on at least $10,000 of their investment. However this value was determined at the start of the year, and with some portfolio’s down by over 50%. They are now actually paying taxes on 20% of their current portfolio. Due to the lack of transparent investment advice, we will continue to sell these massive sell offs take its toll on already undervalued equities. It is only a matter of months IMO before we see a commodity correction.

    And as we know “Concurrently, the U.S. Government runs large operating deficits in circumstances where its National Debt approximated $9.6 trillion at July 31, 2008, up from $9 trillion at December 31, 2007 and $6.2 trillion at December 31, 2006.”
    Quote Source: www.stockresearchporta…/

    The question is with the money supply increasing, debt increasing, unemployment increasing, foreclosures increasing, consumer confidence on the decline. How worse can things really get?

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    Nov 17 02:00 PM

    Sonofabitch! An article that TELLS IT LIKE IT IS! Oohhh, are you gonna catch hell from the nay sayers (anti-goldbugs). Thanks for saying it!
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    Nov 17 02:13 PM

    A couple of problems with this article.

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    “The bottom for stocks will be the top for cash and treasury bonds.”

    At that eventual point, it might indeed be good for gold, but by definition it would also be attractive for stocks.

    Also, by any measure of money supply that I follow, it has been stagnant in recent months, not growing at all. This is what the Fed is trying to fight – shrinkage in the supply and velocity of money.

    research.stlouisfed.or…

    www.nowandfutures.com/…

    So until these trends end (money supply stagnation with deflation in all asset classes plus USD and Treasury strength), cash will remain king.

     

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    Nov 17 03:49 PM

    “In my opinion, commodity prices can possibly hit new lows in the upcoming months as the recession is still going on. There are a lot of uncertainties that are still at bay and till they have been cleared up, the economy will still be going downhill. Questions pertaining to increasing unemployment? Will the Govt bailout the US Automakers? How much are Corp taxes going to increase next year when Obama is in power? These uncertainties need to be solved before the market actually is stable for investors.

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    Hopefully you had found my insight helpful, I usually use the following website as a tool to gather all my data. Best of luck to all investors:
    www.stockresearchporta…;

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    Nov 17 09:16 PM

    We enjoy your articles and more importantly they help us keep things in their proper perspective. Keep them coming Peter, and thank you!!
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    Nov 18 02:18 AM

    pangaea: the coming bottom in the stock market doesn’t necessarily mean a bull market for equities.  The market could bounce along the bottom for the next decade or two (as it did before the last great bull market) while we deal with the consequences of this mess.
    And the Fed and it’s European counterpart are openly trying to weaken their respective currencies. It’s a struggle right now, but they will succeed mightily at some point!
    Gold is the enemy of inflation, and the gold market recognizes this. That is why central banks and their allies continue to fight the gold price, as all central banks must.
    Do yourself a favor and buy some artificially cheap gold. Get out of dollars while the gettin’s good!
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All the Gold in Saudi Arabia – Seeking Alpha

18 Tuesday Nov 2008

Posted by jschulmansr in commodities, Currency and Currencies, deflation, Finance, gold, hard assets, inflation, Investing, investments, Latest News, Markets, mining stocks, precious metals, silver, Today, U.S. Dollar, Uncategorized

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All the Gold in Saudi Arabia – Seeking Alpha

By: Tim Iacono

Tim’s blog: The Mess That Greenspan Made

There was a story out last week in the Gulf News about unprecedented gold buying in Saudi Arabia during the first half of November. According to the report, 13 billion Saudi riyals worth of the metal have been purchased in recent weeks – about $3.5 billion or roughly 140 tonnes at today’s prices.

A quick check of the SPDR Gold Shares ETF (NYSEArca:GLD) shows no similar buying over this time. In fact, the world’s most popular gold ETF has been noticeably quiet during this period, with just 0.3 tonnes exiting the trust earlier in the month, barely noticeable in the chart below.

It also looks like there’s another little wedge pattern forming at around $740 an ounce.
IMAGEThis report by Peter Cooper at ArabianMoney.net, which also appears at Seeking Alpha, lends some credibility to the story in the Gulf News, one of the leading English-language newspapers in the region:

I cannot verify the source but all I can say is that this has the hallmarks of a genuine story, based on my 25 years in financial journalism. First, it was buried on an inside page and the amount was given in UAE currency later in the story – hardly the action of somebody looking to manipulate the gold price, more an indication that the sub-editors did not understand the importance of this story.

Second, this is how the best stories emerge from Saudi Arabia – the market is not very transparent but insiders do notice big changes and pass this information on, and it surfaces as well sourced rumor. I am afraid this is about as good as it gets in the Middle East.

With local stock markets faltering badly and the property market in Dubai and elsewhere beginning what might be a truly spectacular fall, it makes sense that wealthy individuals would seek out more secure assets during this time of uncertainty.

Curious to see what this two-week purchase would look like when laid up against the inventory at the Gold ETF which, incidentally, just celebrated its four year anniversary, the chart below was created with the recent Saudi purchases indicated in yellow.
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The 140 tonnes recently purchased in Saudi Arabia amount to about one-fifth the inventory that took four years to accumulate at the Gold ETF.

That’s a lot of gold in a very short period of time.

Full Disclosure: Long GLD at time of writing

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Five Ways to Invest in Bottom-Basement Gold – Seeking Alpha

17 Monday Nov 2008

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Five Ways to Invest in Bottom-Basement Gold – Seeking Alpha

By Mike Caggeso  of Monday Morning

By Mike Caggeso

Gold hit two historic milestones in 2008.

First, in early March, the “yellow metal” hit its all-time high of $1,030 an ounce.

Just three months later, the price of gold for December delivery had plummeted to $681 an ounce, a 21-month low and 33.9% drop from its record high.

Most gold bugs were equal parts puzzled and brokenhearted. The world’s stock markets tanked, as did some of its biggest economies. In such an environment, they thought, gold should have risen. After all, gold is widely considered to be a safe-haven investment when everything else is spiraling south. 

However, Money Morning Contributing Editor Martin Hutchinson understood perfectly what other investors did not.

“Gold is not a safe haven against recession,” said Hutchinson. “It’s a safe haven against inflation.”

In the past year, commodities prices skyrocketed – across the board. That was especially true of oil, which hit a record high $147 a barrel. Corn, wheat, and soybeans all hit record highs, as well.

That price escalation tightened household and corporate budgets, and was a primary reason why the U.S. economy posted a gross-domestic product (GDP) decline of 0.3%. With that negative growth, the third quarter was the beginning of what many experts believe will be the nation’s first recession since 2001.

However, the inflation epidemic has waned significantly, as global demand for raw materials has plummeted. Price for such staple foods as corn, soybeans and wheat have all come down from their record highs – in near-lockstep fashion.

Corn futures are down nearly 50% from their summer high of $8 per bushel. The same is true of soybeans and wheat, with each having lost roughly half their value. In fact, wheat hit a 16-month low in mid-October.

As most of us noticed, gas prices have fallen 48% from their July 17 high of $4.114 a gallon.

And not coincidentally, gold has fallen 22% in that same time frame.

However, this report examines the pending commodities rebound – a projected slow-and-steady increase in commodity prices that will reverse the breakneck plunge below fair value that commodities have experienced for much of this year.

Our objective now: To chart the expected path of gold prices in the New Year.

This report also reveals another wild card inflationary indicator that Hutchinson believes will carry gold prices to $1,500 an ounce by the end of 2009.

Two Catalysts For Gold’s Climb

The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Oct. 10 Crop Production Report said acreage for a handful of staple food commodities has shrunk:

  • Corn acreage fell 1.2%.
  • Soybean acreage dropped 1.4%.
  • Canola acreage dropped 1.9%.
  • Sunflower acreage shrank 0.8%.
  • And acreage of dry edible beans fell 0.7%.

That naturally translates to higher prices because it squeezes the supply of the particular commodity. And it does so at a time when demand continues to escalate from populations in China, India and Latin America. And higher prices equal inflation.

But Hutchinson – who correctly predicted this last run-up in gold prices – says there’s another catalyst that’s right now inherent in the U.S. economy that could help vault gold prices to $1,500 an ounce by the end of 2009. And it has to do with the much-ballyhooed $700 billion rescue plan.

The philosophy behind the rescue plan is elegantly simple: By providing a portion of the $700 billion to foundering U.S banks, the Treasury Department believed it could provide banks with badly needed capital, and get them to start lending money once again – jump-starting the economy in the process.

Since September 2007, U.S. Federal Reserve policymakers have cut the benchmark Federal Funds target rate nine times – from 5.25% down to the current 1.0% rate – to increase bank-to-bank lending and bank-to-consumer lending.

“The government is pumping money in so many banks, and that money has to come out somewhere,” Hutchinson said.

Right now, banks aren’t boosting lending. Instead, they are using the cash to finance buyouts of other banks. Even so, that money will “come out” into the economy in the form of higher stock prices for banks. That will make consumer/investors wealthier, and could make them more confident in the economy. If they’re more confident, they will spend. As that happens, food prices should begin ticking upward, adding another set of thrusters to gold prices.

“Everybody thinks that because we’re having a horrible recession, we’re not going to have inflation. I think that’s probably wrong,” Hutchinson said. “I think gold has quite good hidden-store value.”

As gold prices increase, count on more investors leaving the sidelines to invest, too, causing the surge in gold prices to accelerate and steepen.

“As gold goes up, it gets more popular and investors start piling into it,” Hutchinson said.  

And if gold gets anywhere near the $1,500 mark, sell. Prices that high will likely fall back or plateau as the Federal Reserve begins raising interest rates and strengthening the U.S. dollar, Hutchinson said.

Five Ways to Play Bottom-Basement Gold

Before we get too far ahead of ourselves, let’s first look at five ways to play bargain-basement gold prices.

The SPDR Gold Trust ETF (GLD) – formerly StreetTracks Gold – is a fund whose shares are intended to parallel the movement of gold prices. Since gold prices started falling along with gas prices, SPDR Gold Trust has stayed within a 0.5% margin of gold prices. This exchange-traded fund (ETF) eliminates any investor concern over storage and delivery while giving them exactly what they want – gold.

Toronto-based Barrick Gold Corp. (ABX) has 27 mines, mostly in North America and South America, and is developing or exploring 11 more. With a market cap of more than $20 billion, it has considerably more liquidity than most mining companies. Barrick is primarily a gold miner, but it also has copper and zinc mining operations. As far as investors are concerned, there are two ways to look at that: It’s not a pure play, per se, but then again, this is a company stock, not a bar of bullion. Also, having operations other than gold can help stabilize the company’s bottom line in case problems arise at a gold mine.

Denver-based Newmont Mining Corp. (NEM) is primarily a gold producer with operations in the United States, Australia, Peru, Indonesia, Canada, New Zealand and Mexico. Its reserves are hovering around 86.5 million ounces. Like Barrick, this is a mining stock play, and is subject to market swings – as well as fluctuations in gold prices. That can be a significant tailwind, especially if you believe the stock market has bottomed out or is close to doing so. Hutchinson – forever a value-oriented investor – warned that Newmont might be a little too pricey now. Investors may want to wait for the company’s stock price to settle before getting in.

Hutchinson thinks the best value for a gold mining stock can be found in Yamana Gold Inc. (AUY), another Toronto-based company that’s small now, but has rapidly expanding production. 

But for investors who just want gold – not an ETF or stock – the best avenue is an EverBank Select Metals Account: EverBank accounts has a minimum deposit that is 98% lower than its competitors, and its commission costs are up to 86% lower than other metals’ brokers and bullion banks. It offers two types of gold accounts: Unallocated (your purchased gold is pooled with that of other investors, eliminating storage and maintenance costs; the minimum deposit is $5,000), and Allocated (you directly own the gold you purchase, held in your own private account; $7,500 is the minimum deposit here).

Both types of accounts can be set up 24/7 online. But if you prefer the phone, call 866-326-6241, and be sure to give them the code 12608 when setting up an account.

We should point out that the publisher of Money Morning has a marketing relationship with EverBank, but that’s because its products are among the best in class.

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Simple Moving Averages Make Trends Stand Out

17 Monday Nov 2008

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Simple Moving Averages Make Trends Stand Out

By: John Devcic of BK TRADER FX    The 5 Things That Move The Currency Market

Moving averages are one of the most popular and often-used technical indicators. The moving average is easy to calculate and, once plotted on a chart, is a powerful visual trend-spotting tool. You will often hear about three types of moving average: simple, exponential and linear. The best place to start is by understanding the most basic: the simple moving average (SMA). Let’s take a look at this indicator and how it can help traders follow trends toward greater profits.

Trendlines
There can be no complete understanding of moving averages without an understanding of trends. A trend is simply a price that is continuing to move in a certain direction. There are only three real trends that a security can follow:

  • An uptrend, or bullish trend, means that the price is moving higher. 
  • A downtrend, or bearish trend, means the price is moving lower.  
  • A sideways trend, where the price is moving sideways.

The important thing to remember about trends is that prices rarely move in a straight line. Therefore, moving-average lines are used to help a trader more easily identify the direction of the trend. (For more advanced reading on this topic, see The Basics Of Bollinger Bands and Moving Average Envelopes: Refining A Popular Trading Tool.)

Moving Average Construction
The textbook definition of a moving average is an average price for a security using a specified time period. Let’s take the very popular 50-day moving average as an example. A 50-day moving average is calculated by taking the closing prices for the last 50 days of any security and adding them together. The result from the addition calculation is then divided by the number of periods, in this case 50. In order to continue to calculate the moving average on a daily basis, replace the oldest number with the most recent closing price and do the same math.

No matter how long or short of a moving average you are looking to plot, the basic calculations remain the same. The change will be in the number of closing prices you use. So, for example, a 200-day moving average is the closing price for 200 days summed together and then divided by 200. You will see all kinds of moving averages, from two-day moving averages to 250-day moving averages.

It is important to remember that you must have a certain number of closing prices to calculate the moving average. If a security is brand new or only a month old, you will not be able to do a 50-day moving average because you will not have a sufficient number of data points.

Also, it is important to note that we’ve chosen to use closing prices in the calculations, but moving averages can be calculated using monthly prices, weekly prices, opening prices or even intraday prices. (For more, see our Moving Averages tutorial.)

Figure 1: A simple moving average in Google Inc.
Source: StockCharts.com

Figure 1 is an example of a simple moving average on a stock chart of Google Inc. (Nasdaq:GOOG). The blue line represents a 50-day moving average. In the example above, you can see that the trend has been moving lower since late 2007. The price of Google shares fell below the 50-day moving average in January of 2008 and continued downward.

When the price crosses below a moving average, it can be used as a simple trading signal. A move below the moving average (as shown above) suggests that the bears are in control of the price action and that the asset will likely move lower. Conversely, a cross above a moving average suggests that the bulls are in control and that the price may be getting ready to make a move higher. (Read more in Track Stock Prices With Trendlines.)

Other Ways to Use Moving Averages           
Moving averages are used by many traders to not only identify a current trend but also as an entry and exit strategy. One of the simplest strategies relies on the crossing of two or more moving averages. The basic signal is given when the short-term average crosses above or below the longer term moving average. Two or more moving averages allow you to see a longer term trend compared to a shorter term moving average; it is also an easy method for determining whether the trend is gaining strength or if it is about to reverse. (For more on this method, read A Primer On The MACD.)

Figure 2: A long-term and shorter term moving average in Google Inc.
Source: StockCharts.com

Figure 2 uses two moving averages, one long-term (50-day, shown by the blue line) and the other shorter term (15-day, shown by the red line). This is the same Google chart shown in Figure 1, but with the addition of the two moving averages to illustrate the difference between the two lengths.

You’ll notice that the 50-day moving average is slower to adjust to price changes, because it uses more data points in its calculation. On the other hand, the 15-day moving average is quick to respond to price changes, because each value has a greater weighting in the calculation due to the relatively short time horizon. In this case, by using a cross strategy, you would watch for the 15-day average to cross below the 50-day moving average as an entry for a short position.

Figure 3: A three-month
Source: StockCharts.com

The above is a three-month chart of United States Oil (AMEX:USO) with two simple moving averages. The red line is the shorter, 15-day moving average, while the blue line represents the longer, 50-day moving average. Most traders will use the cross of the short-term moving average above the longer-term moving average to initiate a long position and identify the start of a bullish trend. (Learn more about applying this strategy in Trading The MACD Divergence.)

Support and Resistance
Support and resistance, or ceilings and floors, refer to the same thing in technical analysis.

  • Support is established when a price is trending downward. There is a point at which the selling pressure subsides and buyers are willing to step in. In other words, a floor is established.  
  • Resistance happens when a price is trending upward. There comes a point when the buying strength diminishes and the sellers step in. This would establish a ceiling. (For more explanation, read Support & Resistance Basics.)

In either case, a moving average may be able to signal an early support or resistance level. For example, if a security is drifting lower in an established uptrend, then it wouldn’t be surprising to see the stock find support at a long-term 200-day moving average. On the other hand, if the price is trending lower, many traders will watch for the stock to bounce off the resistance of major moving averages (50-day, 100-day, 200-day SMAs). (For more on using support and resistance to identify trends, read Trend-Spotting With The Accumulation/Distribution Line.)

Conclusion
Moving averages are powerful tools. A simple moving average is easy to calculate, which allows it to be employed fairly quickly and easily. A moving average’s greatest strength is its ability to help a trader identify a current trend or spot a possible trend reversal. Moving averages can also identify a level of support or resistance for the security, or act as a simple entry or exit signal. How you choose to use moving averages is entirely up to you.

For further reading on moving averages, check out Simple Moving Averages And Volume Rate-Of-Change and Basics Of Weighted Moving Averages.

by John Devcic, (Contact Author | Biography)

John Devcic is a freelance writer, market historian and private speculator. After investing in a mutual fund right out of high school and losing his initial investment of $350, Devcic began to believe he could do better with his money then the so-called experts could. Over the years a healthy and sometimes unhealthy obsession with how the markets work and how they worked in the past has made Devcic a true market historian. He reminds himself at all times that the market – while ever-changing – always seems to repeat itself.

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Happy Birthday GLD: Gold ETF Excels Four Years Out – Seeking Alpha

17 Monday Nov 2008

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Happy Birthday GLD: Gold ETF Excels Four Years Out – Seeking Alpha

By Adam Hamilton of Zeal Speculation and Investment

Amidst our seemingly endless slog through today’s dark sentiment wastelands plaguing the markets, we have a birthday to celebrate. Four years ago this week, a revolutionary ETF was launched that forever changed trading dynamics within the global gold market. Known today as the SPDR Gold Shares, GLD has been wildly successful by any measure.

GLD’s rise to fame has not been easy. While a few contrarians loved the idea of a gold ETF as a way to broaden investor participation in this gold bull, many investors were very skeptical. Some were downright hostile. Although rehashing all these obstacles GLD has faced is beyond the scope of this essay, I wrote about a gold ETF in 2002 years before GLD hit the market and also GLD itself in early 2006, late 2006, and late 2007. These past essays can still fill you in on GLD’s history and dispel many myths surrounding it.

GLD has overcome much to become not only a juggernaut in the gold world, but in the entire ETF world as well. Last week, GLD was the 3rd largest ETF on the planet with $18b worth of net assets (physical gold bullion in its vaults)! Only the (SPY) S&P 500 ETF and the (EFA) large-cap foreign stocks ETF were larger. GLD is bigger than the famous (QQQQ) NASDAQ 100 ETF, the (DIA) Dow 30 ETF, the (XLF) S&P 500 financial stocks ETF, and the (XLE) S&P 500 energy stocks ETF. GLD is huge!

In order to become the 3rd largest ETF in the US out of a universe now exceeding 800, GLD’s custodians have had to execute on their mission exceedingly well. GLD is simply designed to track the price of gold. It grants stock traders an easy and efficient way to add gold exposure to their portfolios. As I’ve discussed extensively in my past GLD essays, it is not a substitute for physical gold coins as the foundation for a long-term investment portfolio. But it’s not meant to be. It is for mainstreamers not well-versed in gold.

GLD’s advantages to traders are legion. It can be bought and sold instantly in any standard stock account, for trivial stock-trading commissions. It can be shorted if one expects a gold correction. A high-volume and highly liquid GLD options market has also sprung up, providing more sophisticated traders with excellent tools to exploit projected gold moves via stock options. GLD is inarguably the easiest and quickest way to get gold exposure.

And GLD’s contribution to this gold bull has been massive as well, driving the gold price higher for all gold investors whether they own GLD or not. It radically widened investor participation in this gold bull, creating a direct conduit for vast pools of stock-market capital to chase gold. And chase gold it has. As of this week, GLD held an amazing 749 tonnes of physical gold bullion in trust for its investors!

This is a staggering amount of the yellow metal and difficult to understand without context. Traditionally, the largest gold holders are the national central banks of the world. Around 100 countries own gold bullion. If you put GLD in this list of elite central banks, it holds more gold today than all but 7! And after it merely grows another 2.1%, GLD will overtake Japan to become the 7th largest gold holder on the planet.

But although GLD is massive in the world of gold, it remains very small relative to the financial markets. With its $18b market cap last week, 118 individual companies in the S&P 500 are each bigger than it. This is even more impressive considering these companies’ market caps were considered from severely depressed end-of-October levels. The top 20% of the S&P 500, the elite S&P 100 companies, collectively had a $5935b market cap at the end of last month. So GLD has plenty of room to grow despite its size.

By acting as a conduit between stock-market capital and physical gold itself, GLD has really changed the dynamics of the world gold trade. There are many other gold ETFs around the world, but GLD has something like 85% of the total assets of all the world’s gold ETFs. It is the only individual gold ETF that really matters. So in this series of essays I have been studying GLD’s ongoing market impact since its launch.

This first chart plots GLD’s holdings since its birth on November 18th, 2004. I like to compare GLD’s gold bullion held in trust with the performance of the price of gold, slaved to the right axis. Not only is multiplying its initial holdings by 94.3x as of mid-October utterly remarkable, but the way these gold holdings have grown is fascinating. They have been far more stable than even GLD’s most optimistic proponents, including me, originally expected at launch.

While GLD’s holdings have indeed contracted modestly from time to time, its strategic growth trajectory has been tremendously impressive. GLD’s gold has climbed in a somewhat stair-stepped fashion. Of course when gold is surging in a powerful upleg, interest in gold investment is high and GLD grows rapidly. But provocatively, even when gold is not surging, GLD still tends to grow moderately on balance.

If you carefully examine every sharp correction suffered by gold above, within them GLD’s holdings really don’t fall all that much on a percentage basis. I would have expected much larger declines during gold corrections when GLD was born. Also interesting is GLD’s behavior during the long, grinding, sideways consolidations in gold that bleed away enthusiasm. It still exhibited moderate growth during these slow times. This performance is stellar, GLD is truly a rock star.

To understand why, consider how tracking ETFs work. To match percentage moves in the price of its underlying asset, a tracking ETF has to see similar supply-and-demand pressures. But supply and demand for GLD shares from stock traders doesn’t necessarily match that of gold futures from futures traders. So in order for GLD to fulfill its mission, GLD’s custodians must actively augment or retard GLD supply to ensure this ETF tracks its underlying asset’s moves tightly. This isn’t easy.

If stock traders demand relatively more GLD than futures traders are buying gold, GLD’s price will decouple from gold to the upside. GLD’s custodians have to vent this excess demand into the physical gold market in order to equalize the demand pressure differential. So when GLD demand exceeds gold demand, they issue new GLD shares and use the proceeds to buy physical gold bullion. This works simultaneously on two fronts. Increasing GLD share supply absorbs the outsized ETF buying pressure and then buying gold with the resulting stock-market capital forces its price to rise more in line with GLD.

So whenever you see GLD’s bullion holdings rise in these charts, it means stock traders were buying GLD at a faster rate than futures traders were buying gold. And as you can see, outside of a few minor pullbacks, GLD’s holdings have grown relentlessly. This means GLD is becoming ever-more popular and stock traders are buying it up at a faster rate than underlying gold demand. So GLD must issue shares and buy gold to ensure this ETF keeps tracking gold closely.

Now shunting stock-market capital directly into gold is wonderful when ETF demand is expanding. It has accelerated this secular gold bull. But the massive pools of stock-market capital having access to gold is a sharp double-edged sword. If stock traders ever start selling GLD at a faster rate than gold futures selling, GLD will be forced to contract its holdings. If it doesn’t, GLD will decouple from gold to the downside and fail its mission.

If excessive GLD shares are being dumped on the market and it is falling faster than gold, GLD’s custodians have to buy back this excess supply. Where do they get the cash? By selling gold bullion. This works two ways as well. Selling physical gold forces stock-market selling pressure on GLD into the physical market to equalize the differential. And then using the resulting proceeds to buy back GLD shares neutralizes the excessive ETF selling pressure and keeps GLD tracking gold.

So when (not if) a big disproportionate sustained GLD selloff happens in the future, it will lead to gold falling much faster and farther than it would have if stock-market capital wasn’t deployed in it. Personally I’m glad stock investors can get gold exposure via GLD. Yes, it increases upside and downside volatility. But this is typical as secular bulls evolve. The higher a price goes, the more capital gets interested in chasing it. The more capital flooding into a market, the more volatility it generates. Even without GLD, gold volatility would still gradually increase.

But rather impressively, so far we haven’t seen the massive unwinding of GLD positions that many gold investors understandably fear. GLD’s holdings have grown steadily and relentlessly for 4 years running now. And this has happened through mighty uplegs, wickedly fast and brutal corrections, and long grinding consolidations. As long as demand for GLD continues to grow faster than demand growth for gold itself, GLD will have to continue ramping up its vast holdings.

And with GLD’s holdings running at just 0.2% of the market cap of the S&P 500 at the end of last month, there is lots of room to grow. As more stock investors realize the importance of having some gold exposure in their portfolios, many will buy some GLD shares. At 1% of US portfolios, GLD would have to grow 5x bigger from here. This is not an aggressive or unrealistic expectation within a secular gold bull. At 3% of US portfolios, it would have to expand by 15x. This would make it the world’s largest gold holder by far.

Many hardcore physical-gold-coin investors, including me, have long wondered how GLD owners’ resolve would weather a severe correction in gold. Would they panic and dump GLD, exacerbating the decline in gold? Or would they hold steady? Since GLD is such a trivial part of the aggregate portfolio of all US investors, maybe it is just too inconsequential to bother selling. At any rate, this past year was a great test for GLD owners. Gold was crushed, yet GLD still didn’t see disproportional selling. This chart zooms in.

When gold powered from around $750 in October 2007 to just over $1000 in mid-March, it is no surprise GLD’s holdings were growing. Everyone, especially non-contrarian mainstreamers, loves a hot investment. GLD’s holdings grew to an all-time high of 664 metric tons. But gold cracked on a Fed rate cut surprise (75bp instead of the 100bp expected) in mid-March and plunged 15.3% by early May. Did this spook GLD owners? Darned right it did! Check out the sharp drop in GLD’s holdings over this period.

Since GLD owners were selling this ETF at a faster rate than the futures guys were hitting gold itself, GLD’s holdings fell 12.6% over this span. Having this giant ETF release 1/8th of its physical bullion into the market certainly exacerbated this correction. But interestingly as soon as gold stabilized, so did GLD’s holdings. They held flat near 600t until mid-June when gold started rallying again. Remember that as long as GLD’s supply-and-demand trends match gold’s, no changes in holdings are necessary.

From mid-June to mid-July as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were failing, gold powered 12.6% higher. Even though gold itself couldn’t best its $1005 mid-March high, GLD’s holdings easily surged well above their March levels to new records. Over this same 5-week span GLD’s gold bullion held in trust soared by 17.5%! Stock traders were buying GLD far faster than gold itself was rising, so this ETF’s custodian shunted this excess demand into physical gold.

From mid-July to mid-September, gold took a massive 23.8% beating. It was brutal, the worst correction of this gold bull. If there was ever a time for the “weak hands” owning GLD to panic, this was it. And while GLD selling was indeed excessive so its custodians had to sell gold bullion to buy back GLD shares to maintain tracking, GLD’s holdings still only fell 12.5%. This is about half as much as gold fell, not too bad. GLD owners didn’t get as scared as I thought they would in such a massive gold correction.

Gold rallied strongly out of its mid-September lows. In fact, on September 17th it rocketed 11.1% higher on a single trading day! It was one of gold’s biggest daily gains ever in percentage terms. This extraordinary move happening on a day when the S&P 500 fell 4.7% drove tremendous interest in GLD. Stock investors flooded into it at a much faster rate than futures traders were buying gold. That day alone GLD bought 36 tonnes of gold, growing its hoard by 5.9%!

In early October as the financial panic hit, gold got sucked into it. Everything was sold due to margin calls, forced fund redemptions, deleveraging, and fear. Sadly gold was sold as well. I recently wrote an essay on this curious selloff if you are interested. From early October until this week, gold plummeted another 22.4%. If this didn’t terrify GLD owners, nothing will. Here we had a once-in-a-generation financial-market panic and gold failed to soar as expected. Its selloff was a terribly depressing development.

But GLD owners didn’t panic. Their resolve was very impressive. At worst, GLD only had to shed 3.1% of its holdings during this steep gold selloff! Even afterwards this week, GLD’s bullion was still merely near 6-week lows and not far from its all-time high achieved in mid-October. If GLD investors were tough enough not to panic in 2008, a year of extraordinarily brutal and recurring gold selloffs, then I doubt they are a big threat in a more normal gold correction not driven by an exceedingly rare global financial panic.

The net result of all this? Check out the trends on this chart. Gold itself has been in a miserable downtrend since mid-March. It even fell under support in August, September, October, and November. Even long-time hardcore gold investors have had a tough time dealing with this psychologically. Yet despite such a rotten price and sentiment environment, GLD’s holdings have been in an uptrend this past year! Indeed GLD’s holdings soared to new all-time highs twice even after gold had started correcting aggressively.

In recent weeks, GLD’s holdings have been discussed in contrarian circles. If gold fell below a certain price, would GLD owners exit en masse? If they did, gold would plummet of course. GLD would have to shed gold fast to buy excessive GLD share supply. In a worst-case panic scenario, GLD could conceivably dump hundreds of tonnes of gold onto the markets in a matter of weeks. Some have likened it to a “rogue central bank” due to this dire potential.

Is this GLD-as-a-rogue-central-bank-like-selling-vehicle possible? Sure, anything is possible in the markets. But is it likely? Certainly not if 2008’s strong GLD holdings performance truly reflects GLD owners’ resolve. And this makes sense. Despite GLD’s large size relative to gold, it is trivial relative to stocks. An average mainstream investor owns so little GLD that it isn’t even worth worrying about for that particular investor. GLD owners passed 2008’s tough tests with flying colors.

Another way I’ve watched GLD evolve over the years is through its trading volume. The more popular it gets, the more its volume grows. This is true both in terms of absolute share volume and capital volume. Capital volume is price multiplied by share volume. Trading 10m shares of GLD in the $40s is not the same as trading 10m shares of GLD in the $80s. Traders’ interest in and usage of GLD is soaring.

In addition to the raw daily GLD share volume in red, this time I added a quarterly-average-volume line in yellow. This yellow line distills out a lot of the random noise and shows the steady growth of absolute daily volume in GLD. Interestingly it even continued growing on balance in Q2 and Q3 2008 in the midst of gold’s latest correction. Growing volume is a sign of a healthy bull capturing the attention of more and more traders. And of course capital volume is growing even faster than share volume due to gold’s higher prevailing prices over the lifespan of this ETF.

Provocatively, GLD had one giant volume spike that wouldn’t fit on this chart. On September 17th it rocketed to 66m shares and the next day it remained incredible at 61m shares. As you can see, this is way beyond GLD’s precedent. What drove this superspike? In past GLD essays, I’ve observed that big gold selloffs can lead to outsized GLD volume spikes. Gold plunges on a given day, GLD traders get scared, and they sell aggressively.

But in mid-September 2008, it was a monster rally that drove GLD volume rather than a selloff. That was the day that gold soared 11.1% in its biggest daily rally in 28 years. This offers another important glimpse into GLD owners’ psyches. When gold soared, enough traders knew about GLD to buy it aggressively. This probably reflects a lot of latent interest in this gold bull among stock traders that is usually overlooked. GLD’s custodians’ performance in keeping GLD tracking gold through such a big and fast surge in demand is very impressive.

This last chart explores the variance between gold itself and GLD. While it seems silly now after 4 years, back in the initial months of GLD’s life naysayers warned it would fail in tracking gold. They thought no one could be nimble enough to actively shunt stock-market capital into and out of gold fast enough to keep an ETF tracking this metal. Thankfully time has proven these fears unfounded, just like most of the other fears surrounding this unique trading vehicle.

Over its entire lifespan, GLD’s daily correlation r-square with gold has run a staggering 99.98%! And yes, this is the r-square and not the raw correlation coefficient itself. It simply could not be any higher. From a stock trader’s perspective, for all intents and purposes GLD’s performance was identical to gold’s. It has fulfilled its mission of tracking gold’s movements perfectly. GLD is a great trading proxy for gold itself.

Early on, GLD tracked gold’s absolute levels more tightly than it does today. The yellow line above is the GLD price multiplied by 10, since each GLD share represents a tenth of an ounce of gold held in trust. As you can see above, this yellow line is falling farther behind the blue gold line as GLD ages. This is totally normal and reflects GLD’s expense ratio. All ETFs charge a small fee for their services, and in GLD’s case this is 0.4% per year.

In return for providing the excellent trading vehicle that GLD has proven to be, its custodians have the right to earn a reasonable profit from their hard work. So each year they sell 0.4% of this ETF’s gold to cover their expenses and earn a profit. This management fee is evident in GLD’s tracking of gold. The red downtrend above shows the 5-day moving average of GLD’s daily variance to gold itself. Its generally tight downtrend proves GLD’s custodians have been doing an excellent job in keeping GLD aligned with gold.

This variance downtrend is the direct result of that 0.4% expense ratio. If you go out 1 year after inception, this downtrend is centered near -0.4%. At 2 years, it is around -0.8%. Not only is 0.4% a year very reasonable for running GLD, there haven’t been any surprises. Like all ETFs, GLD’s net-asset value per share is shrinking slightly every year. But GLD is still deftly fulfilling its mission of tracking gold and providing easy and efficient access to gold exposure for stock-market capital.

Whether GLD is something you own, want to own, or wouldn’t touch with a ten-foot pole because you favor other forms of gold, ultimately it has been very good for this gold bull. All gold investors, regardless of their own investment preferences, want more capital to follow them into gold. We don’t care where this capital comes from, we just want the buying pressure. By creating a conduit between the stock markets and physical gold, GLD has succeeded in radically broadening investor participation in just 4 years.

And as long as this secular gold bull remains intact, GLD should only help gold on balance. The financial panic has driven up investment demand for gold, as GLD’s soaring holdings amidst a falling gold price vividly illustrate. And global mined gold supplies were already falling for years even before gold started correcting and the financial crisis hit. With gold miners’ decimated stock prices and the insurmountable difficulties in getting debt and equity financing today, gold mined supplies’ contraction will accelerate.

On top of this, according to Forbes the US government alone is on the hook for $5 trillion in bailouts so far! Much of this bailout money will be created by the Fed out of thin air and eventually filter into the real economy. And when it does, boy inflation is going to skyrocket. If you think GLD has been popular for the past 4 years, imagine how much more it will be over the next 4 if headline CPI inflation doubles or triples thanks to these asinine socialist bailout schemes? GLD should grow many times over from here.

At Zeal we have long been strategic investors and speculators unswayed by irrational paranoia. Cold hard facts are all that matter, not the endless permutations of wild conspiracy theories. Years before any gold ETF existed, I wrote about how great one would be to broaden gold participation into the mainstream. And since GLD launched, I have fought the many silly myths used to scare investors away from this innovative trading vehicle. GLD has been great for this gold bull!

Today more than ever, investors and speculators need clear thinking and sound analysis untainted by the shrill emotions ruling the day. While the markets are illogical now, they won’t be for long. Panics never persist, but they drive great once-in-a-lifetime bargains that shrewd investors and speculators can capitalize on. If you are tired of being ruled over or unduly influenced by the shifting tides of popular sentiment, join us today. Subscribe to our acclaimed monthly newsletter to grow your market wisdom!

The bottom line is GLD has been a smashing success. By excelling in its mission of tracking gold and providing an easy and efficient way to grant gold exposure to mainstream stock investors, it has grown into the 3rd largest ETF on the planet. And this is even more impressive considering the heavy skepticism and withering attacks on GLD launched from fringe factions within the traditionally pro-gold community.

Whether you or I would own GLD personally or not is irrelevant. The point is many nontraditional gold investors have flocked to GLD and this trend should only accelerate. Broader participation in this gold bull, more capital from more origins bidding up gold, greatly benefits all gold investors. And as 2008 has shown, GLD owners aren’t anywhere near as skittish in a gold selloff as many assumed they would be.

Disclosure: Long GLD.

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Governments Reflate and Gold Will Rise!

14 Friday Nov 2008

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Governments Reflate and Gold Will Rise!

Source: GoldForecaster.com   and The Gold Report 11/14/2008

 
A long and deep recession, possibly a depression is being forecast across a broad front. But the real picture is different. Governments and central banks are not only committed to doing all in their power to resurrect growth and give their different economies ‘traction’ but have begun the vigorous implementation of reflation. They will do “whatever it takes” to get growth and confidence re-established globally. In essence, the crisis appeared quickly and devastatingly out of greedy lending by banks loaning to uncreditworthy individuals on a broad front. It has to be rectified just as quickly because banks control the lifeblood of liquidity in the economy and they will place their financial health well before that of the broad economy and their customers. They have been saved by central banks to date, but it is resumption of growth and confidence, not healthy banks, that must be achieved first. In the major economic blocs of the world actions are underway, to differing degrees, to force the banks to lend or be bypassed, so that the damage they can inflict on growth, through congealed debt and their instruments, is neutralized. The banks have made it opaquely clear, that they will not lend in such a way as to rectify the underlying crises of a dropping housing market and its ‘ripple’ effects on consumer spending. Governments do see banks as an obstacle to the resuscitation of growth and confidence, so their powerful influence over the state of the economy has to be reduced considerably before this can be done. And it has to be done before any semblance of recovery can be achieved again. The longer the process takes the more difficult and lengthy the solution will be.

Just take a look at the world’s three main economic bloc’s efforts at stimulating growth again:-

  • China said it would spend an estimated $586 billion over the next two years, roughly 7% of its gross domestic product each year, to construct new railways, subways and airports and to rebuild communities devastated by the May 2008 earthquake in the southwest. Their reasoning is as follows, “Over the past two months, the global financial crisis has been intensifying daily,” the State Council said. “In expanding investment, we must be fast and heavy-handed.” But in China, much of the capital for infrastructure improvements comes not from central and local governments, but from state banks and state-owned companies that are told to expand more rapidly. China maintains far more control over investment trends than the U.S. does, so they can unleash investments to counter a sharp downturn. The Chinese government said the stimulus would cover 10 areas, including low-income housing, electricity, water, rural infrastructure and projects aimed at environmental protection and technological innovation, all of which could incite consumer spending and bolster the economy. The State Council said the new spending would begin immediately, with $18 billion scheduled for the last quarter of this year. In addition, China has already announced a drastic increase of the minimum purchasing price for wheat from next year, by as much as 15.3%. There is also going to be a substantial increase of the purchasing prices for rice, said the National Development and Reform Commission. In the meantime, they also announced plans to stabilize prices for fertilizers and other agricultural means of production, to ensure that the grain price increase will not be eaten away by input making the price increases real income gains for farmers. This will shore up domestic demand and head off any social unrest in the rapidly growing economy. The government there sees its task to harness all sides of the economy to produce growth while they pull their 1.4 billion people out of poverty. Their recent history confirms their ability to succeed!
  • In Europe, with a more Socialist environment than the U.S.A., [meaning greater central government control over the economy], we believe that after bailing out so many European banks, a very heavy pressure will be put on banks to vigorously lend down to street level again. President Sarkozy’s threat to seize banks that don’t lend gives meat to this forecast. In Britain, nationalization lies ahead of suffering banks and the end of senior executive careers, if they don’t lend freely. Despite the lack of the same effective management [ignoring politics and commerce and other capitalist principles] of the economy in Europe as in China, governments will act in the same way as the Chinese are, eventually, to make growth and confidence happen again. They are committed to this, at last. So 2009 will be the year of reflation in the face of deflation.
  • In the U.S.A., such synthesis of national institutions in fighting deflation is unlikely as the cooperation of banking, commerce, etc to focus on the underlying economic crisis would barge into so many valued principles fought for, over time. However, we have no doubt that the intransigence of such principles in the face of a decaying economy will produce overwhelming pressures on the system to revitalize the consumer and restore his spending. The government has now seen the banks follow the “profit and prudence” principles after their bailouts and their holding back on lending to safeguard themselves, first. Secretary Paulson has now faced off with them and redirected efforts to make government provided financial relief go direct to the consumer. But he is only at the beginning of this process, which must be across the entire spectrum of consumers, not simply a portion of clients of the largest mortgage providers, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Indeed, the slow nature of this solution as it wends its way through political and financial obstacles, could produce a near revolutionary climate, until sufficient action is taken to re-finance the economy from consumer upwards. After all, day-by-day, solid U.S. citizens are being impoverished by the financial sector problems, not their own. As slow as the pace of support becomes, the more degenerative impact it will have on uncertainty and confidence. We have no doubt that 2009 will be remembered as the year of reflation in the face of deflation. Already, house-owning households are likely to receive direct financial aid, if their mortgages are more than 38% of income. If this is applied to all U.S. households in this position we fully expect to see hope lead to confidence, then spending, then growth. These and the suggested support of the consumer on car finance and credit cards will re-kindle spending and the economy. Such moves must convince the U.S. consumer and stop him thinking like a victim. [In the Depression of the early thirties the U.S. used, as part of its battery of tactics, paying people to dig holes and fill them in again, just to get money flowing from ground level up]. This can be implemented in the next few months and impact on the broad economy by the end of the first half of 2009, if applied properly, as government implies it wants to. If it is, then the first 100 days of President Obama will indeed be a honeymoon.

 

The Importance of Growth

Mr. Ben Bernanke and the governments of the U.S., the Eurozone and China have recognized in no uncertain way that confidence must be regained before growth gains traction and becomes self-sustaining. It appears that they have got the message now and will do whatever it takes to ensure the credit crisis is replaced by confidence in credit. That the banks should suffer for their indiscreet past behavior is just, for a lender should carry the same risk as a borrower.

Inflation and Gold and Silver Prices

  • Reflation is vigorously being implemented across the globe, but inevitably it will come with inflation. It is impossible to say just how much money needs to be printed to counter deflation, but for sure it will be more than needed and will keep flowing until the financial sun is shining again. 2009 will probably not see inflation rise to dangerous levels, because of its absorption by deflation. But as the money fills deflationary holes, it will spread far and wide and eat into the value of debt, so bringing relief to troubled debtors in addition to direct governmental support. This will be found to be politically acceptable and will delay, if not remove, the pernicious impact of bad debt that we are seeing now. Growth and confidence are considerably more important problems than inflation. Banks have been given debt relief already and so will the consumer, because that is the only solution to the credit crunch. It will be accompanied by the cheapening of money, leading to far higher gold and silver prices than we are even contemplating now. As this is slowly realized by an ever-widening audience across the globe, gold will re-enter the mainstream of investments as an anchor to monetary values if only at individual levels. Thereafter institutions and perhaps central banks, will appreciate it fully?
  • Governments have to act very fast to stop the confidence-eating impact of deflation from becoming a way of life, just as borrowing was, over the last thirty years. Consequently expect global stimulation to be put in place before the end of the first quarter of 2009. In that time we fully expect forced selling of all assets to slow to a trickle. Thereafter a positive tone will benefit gold and silver in the long-term, as well as short-term.

 

Let’s be clear though, there is no historic precedent to what we are about to see.

We expect gold to thrive in an atmosphere of hope, against a threatening backdrop, with the gold price realistically discounting the diminishing buying power of paper currencies.

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Are We There Yet? Finding that Elusive Bottom – The Gold Report

14 Friday Nov 2008

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Are We There Yet? Finding that Elusive Bottom

Source: The Gold Report  11/14/2008

 

David Skarica, author of the Addicted to Profits newsletter, gives The Gold Report an exclusive preview of coming market attractions including double-digit inflation, a super pop in gold stocks, and the demise of an empire. A financial advisor who earned his reputation as a contrarian before he turned 30 by predicting the dot.com bust, Skarica was the youngest person ever to pass the Canadian Securities Course. He incorporates technical analysis, historical precedent, demographics and investor behavior into his forecasts and names some likely beneficiaries of the next market move.

The Gold Report: Have we finally hit the bottom? Are things turning around?

David Skarica: I’ve studied the panics that have occurred over the past 100 years and discovered that there’s a similar trading pattern when you reach the true bottom. A panic like we saw this September through October is typically followed by a reaction rally similar to what we have now. That rally will take the market 20% to 30% off its lows and last for about a month and then you’ll get a retest. Maybe not an all-out retest, but a repeat of that rally over the next month or two. For example, in ’87 and ’74, after a big 30% or 35% decline, you got a rally into November, then this decline into October and then the market held, the lows took off and launched a bull market for a couple of years.

Once this rally plays out, the key thing to watch is a pullback into December that could very well be “the low.” You’ll know it’s the low because you’ll see non-confirmations. You won’t get as many new lows in the market; the fear gauges like the VIX (Chicago Board Options Exchange Volatility Index) won’t hit such extremes. A lot of the industries that led us down, such as the banks or the airlines, will hold well above their lows. That will be the bottom. In a worst-case scenario like 1929 or 2001, when you had big sell offs, there were rallies for four to six months before the market rolled over and hit new lows. If the market continues rallying into January or February, that would be a very negative signal. I want to see that retest. One positive thing is that we already saw one retest in late October and now we’re seeing this secondary rallying. In 2001, there was no retest. The market sold off real bad for three or four days after 9/11 and then kept rallying.

Gold stocks are at an all-time low in terms of P/Es, and their price relative to the price of gold. The dollar rallied during all the de-leveraging but at some point, the dollar is going to roll over. If you look at the currencies that got killed— the Canadian dollar and the Australian dollar—fundamentally, those countries are still stronger. They’re not running huge deficits. Canada’s deficit will only be a couple of percentage GDP, unlike the U.S. with a deficit of nearly 10% of the GDP. The Canadian banks are fine; none of them need a bailout.

TGR: European banks and Japanese banks are bailing out their banking systems too. Why would U.S. currencies do worse against other currencies?

DS: I don’t think the dollar will totally tank in the short term because Europe —not just the Euro but also all the other European countries thrown in with Euro—have something like 70% of the dollar index. These countries have problems as well. Milton Friedman said he never thought the Euro would survive its first severe recession because you’d never get consensus among the different countries. How are you ever going to get the British, Italians, Germans, and French to agree on anything? The dollar rallied because people thought that the U.S. at least had a policy. I don’t see the dollar collapsing in the short term. Unless we’re going into a total worldwide depression—I don’t think that’s going to happen. I really believe the rest of the world will distrust the U.S. financial system.

Wall Street packaged all this fraudulent stuff and then sold it to everyone. These guys were dumb and greedy for buying it but they were defrauded. So Asian banks won’t be buying anymore Fannie and Freddie bonds; they’re going to say the heck with it and invest in China, India and other emerging nations. Capital flow will shift away from the U.S. After the crash of 1929 the world’s financial center shifted from the U.K. to the U.S. This crash will shift the financial centers from Wall Street to Singapore, Dubai, Mumbai, and Bombay. Japanese banks are pretty solid right now and so are a lot of Asian banks. They’re involved in lawsuits because they own some of these toxic assets, but, again, you’re not seeing mass bailouts over there and Australian banks are strong, too.

There will be growth going forward in emerging economies. Meanwhile, in the U.S. the baby boomers are retiring. In technical analysis we talk about overhead supply and that’s when the stock goes way up and comes way down. The problem that stocks are going to have is the people who bought at much higher levels are going to sell into any rally to cut their losses. Baby boomers are retiring, so they’re selling into any rally. In the 1970s and 1980s they were in their 30s and 40s, so they bought stocks. Over the next ten years they will be sellers.

TGR: What about the echo boomers? They’re getting out of college now. The biggest group is starting college.

DS: They’re getting out of college, but won’t reach their peak earning years until they are in their 40s and 50s.

TGR: Yes.

DS: Echo boomers probably won’t invest significant amounts of money for 10 or 15 years. This is interesting because I do a lot of cycle research and 10 to 20 year cycles are common. In the market, cycles run for 17 or 18 years. For example, we had a bull market from 1949 to 1966, but a bear market from 1966 to 1982 and then another bull market from 1982 to 2000. Now we’re in the midst of a long-term bear market. When that next generation really starts to invest heavily coincides with the time that the baby boomers will have sold out.

As I said, I think we might bottom here; we might have a one or two-year bull market like we had from 1975 to 1976 after the bad bear market in 1973 to 1974. But I think we’re still in what’s called a secular bear market, which lasts for 15 to 20 years. One of the underlying causes is the printing of all this money. I think interest rates are going way up. The next bubble to burst will be the U.S. bond market. You will see high rates in the coming years because right now the U.S. money supply is 38%. That is unbelievable. Even in Y2K, it went to only about 15%.

TGR: The big debate is are we going into a deflationary or inflationary cycle?

DS: I think hyper-inflationary—not like Weimar Republic but like the 1970s. We’ve already started that cycle. Look at the SGS (Shadow Stats – http://www.shadowstats.com), which calculates inflation the way they did in the 70s and 80s. They changed that formula in about 1990 allegedly because the old method overstated inflation. I think the current method understates inflation. When oil was $150, everyone agreed that inflation was higher than the reported 5% or 6%. Using the old method, we were at 10% to 12% this summer when resources were at their highest. So even if you split the difference between the old and the new way of calculating inflation, we were in the range of 8% to 10% this summer.

Anytime they print this much money anywhere, it always led to inflation. One of Bernanke’s big things is to avoid cutting the money supply like the Federal Reserve did from 1929 to 1932. He is doing the opposite. All that liquidity he’s introducing will result in inflation. Typically you don’t go from a period of inflation to deflation. The CPI in the 1920s was going down. They had deflation then and went to ultra deflation in the early 1930s. So usually you go from high inflation to the higher inflation. We’re on a pure fiat currency right now. There’s no gold standard; there’s nothing. Pure fiat currencies usually end in inflation, not deflation.

Take Japan in 1990s and the U.S. in the 1920s—both were creditor nations. People saved. The governments were net creditors going into those downturns, so they could afford to take on debt. Roosevelt only ran one or two deficits before World War II. Obviously, during the war he ran up big deficits. So when you’re a debtor nation, you can’t afford deflation because the amount that you owe goes up in value, right? You’ve got to inflate that away. Some would argue that the whole system is based on credit. No matter how much money the U.S. government prints, no one’s going to lend, and no one will take out loans. That will cause prices to go down. Deflation is a decrease in money supply and in the price of goods. Over the next year or two, go to the store. Is the price of your beer going to go down? Gas prices are lower now than they were in the summer, but they’re a hell of a lot higher than they were six years ago. During a deflationary cycle, you’re going to start seeing deflation on the grocery shelf. The price of your cereal is going to go down; everything’s going to go down in price but that’s not happening. Right now we have asset deflation. I don’t think we’re going to have deflation in the entire economy.

TGR: What’s going to beat the higher interest rates?

DS: Higher interest rates will be (governed by?) supply and demand. Look at the yield of the ten-year bond. The low of that yield got to about 3.2% from 2002 to 2003. The low during this ultimate panic, the worst crash we’ve seen since 1987, has only happened six or seven times in the last 100 years. In 2008, the bond yield only got down to about 3.8%. So we didn’t see this huge influx of money into the bond market. If you were really moving into deflation, the bond market would tell you. The bond market would be going down to a 1 to 2% yield and telling you, okay, everything’s going to come down. But, instead, the bond rates are around 4% right now. To get back to supply and demand, they’ve got to issue $550 billion worth of bonds this quarter to pay for the bailout and they’ll probably have big deficits over the next year or two because it’s going to be a pretty bad recession. Issuing more bonds will probably mean the buyers of those bonds are going to ask for a higher return.

TGR: How high do you think interest rates will go?

DS: That’s really difficult. There’s no reason you can’t get back to at least 7 to 9% on the ten-year bond, which is where we were in the late 1990s. It’s not exactly a heady level, but we could reach low double digits. Here’s the thing no one’s talking about. If you read about the decline and the fall of the Roman Empire or the U.K., the U.S. has made all the same mistakes they made. They tried to police the world with an overly aggressive foreign policy and they spent all your money on war. They went to a pure fiat currency. The U.S. is a super power in decline. It could take a generation, but I think it will happen. In 1913 the U.K. ruled the world. Thirty-five years later after two world wars, the U.S. had to bail them out. These things can change quite quickly. Ultimately people will demand higher returns on that debt, so I see interest rates reaching 10% or higher and I’m being conservative. At the secular top you might get back to where you were in the late 1970s.

TGR: Where would you expect the inflation rate to go once hyperinflation kicks in?

DS: It will be 10 to 15%. Gas was up 10% today; oil’s up 10%. I’m an inflationary guy. Watch someone like Jim Rogers. He’ll talk about how it’s not just a demand thing with China and India or the U.S. dollar going down. His point is that there’s no oil supply coming on the market and alternatives like solar and wind will take a long time to replace fossil fuels. So, I expect double-digit inflation. Now they may only report it as 7% or 8%, but it’ll probably be 15% to 16%, maybe even 18% or 19% higher than that. Look at the way they calculated inflation in 1980. Using that formula, inflation actually got up to 10% to 12% this summer. Now it’s probably down to about half of that because of the drop in commodity prices.

But here’s an interesting note. Commodity prices started falling apart in September during de-leveraging when people were dumping everything. The PPI, the producer price index, in September still went up. Even with huge commodity price declines, you still had an increase in the PPI. I think that’s due to the fiat currency effect. It’s very difficult to get inflation. Remember, even from 1980 to 1982 when they upped rates to 20% to kill inflation, inflation slowed down from 20% to 4% or 5%, but we never went into deflation. People just get mixed up because they think that when stocks go down or real estate goes down that’s deflation. In fact, that’s asset deflation. Deflation is actually a decrease in money supply and decrease in the price of goods. Look at your electricity bill. You won’t see it going down that much.

TGR: As you said, oil was up 10% today.

DS: Oil is $70 now. Oil never hit $70 until a few years ago. People act like, oh, it’s gone down from $140 to $70. But remember, oil was only $25 to $30 when the Iraq war began in 2003. People act like this is deflationary, but oil is just pulling back. To Jim Rogers ‘This is the fourth decline of 40% or greater in the price of oil since the bull market began in 1998.’ I think we’re in a big commodity secular bull market that started in 2001. Commodities are very volatile. They can fall 50% and still be in a bull market. In 1975 to 1976 gold went from $200 to $110 after it went from $35 to $200. Everyone thought the gold market was over and then in the next four years it jumped to $800. Gold can go to $600 and still be in a bull market. People just don’t get that because they don’t think long term.

TGR: So if you’re saying the commodity bull market started in 2001 and that these cycles take 15 to 18 years, we are about half way through this then.

DS: Yes.

TGR: Commodities are volatile, but will the last two-thirds of this bull market grow exponentially faster? Or will it grow fast then drop off?

DS: The two biggest moves are always the one at the beginning and the one at the end. For example, the HUI, the Gold Index, went from $35 to $200 within a couple of years after reaching bottom. That’s a great 6:1 gain. So usually you have a huge launch off the bottom. The Dow went from 800 to 1,500 in its first year or two of the bull market. The first move up will be big and then in the middle you’ll go up more gradually. At the end you’ll have the bubble blow-off. And you’ll see another double or triple gain.

The only comparison I can use is the CRB Index, which is more of a commodity. It went from $100 to around $170 or $200 in the mid-1970s and then had a final blow-off to $350 to $360 in 1980. So the CRB Index went up 250% in the 1970s. It started this bull market at $180 and went to $470. But, again, if you go up 250% from $180, you’re talking about the CRB being about $600 to $650, which would be more than a doubling of its current level. This commodities bull market is going to be bigger because of what’s going to happen when it turns into a bubble. It’s like the growth of the Internet – all of that got priced into the tech stocks from 1999 and 2000. Even though the Internet’s a lot bigger and faster now than it was ten years ago, and there’s more commerce being conducted over it, the stock prices all peaked in 2000. Five to ten years from now, you’ll see these commodities pricing in global economic growth to perfection. So people won’t get it after that if they invest in commodities in 2018. In 2025 commodities will be down 40 to 70% from their highs, but the global economy still growing.

Three things drive commodities: money supply, the U.S. dollar, and supply-demand. In the 1970s the economy was a shambles, but commodity prices went nuts because you had terrible economic policies. The government was printing tons of money, and the U.S. dollar was declining. There was no investment during the 1980s and1990s in big new commodity funds and now a lot of them have been shut down because of this pull back. Commodity prices will rebound by 2010. That will introduce a five to ten year period of high prices where people will aggressively look for stuff and bring supply to the market.

TGR: Where will gold be in the next 12 to 18 months?

DS: That’s a tough call. Right now it’s really interesting because the U.S. dollar has been trading opposite to the market since September. We’ve seen the rally in the dollar; we saw the decline in other currencies because of the flight to the dollar. When we talk about the redemption of hedge funds, most of the people who own those funds are actually outside of the U.S. When you speculate all over the world, you’ve got to buy U.S. dollars just to pay people back their redemption, right? That was part of what was going on. If we get this retest to the market in December after the short term decline in the dollar, you might see another rally out which can hit gold maybe back to around this low $700 area. But if I’m right and the market rallies next year, and this fourth quarter is really the bottom, gold will reach $1,000, even $1,100. The opportunity right now is not in gold; it’s in the gold stocks. Even with this rally that we’ve seen in the gold stocks – for example, the XAU to gold ratio, which is the percentage of the XAU’s trading of the price of gold—it’s usually 22%, which means, for example, gold – let’s make it easy – is $1,000, the XAU is $220—even with today’s rally, the XAU is about $90 and gold is about $750, right?

TGR: Right.

DS: When you do the math that’s about 12%— almost half of the historical ratio. So if gold were to go to $1,000, the gold stocks can more than double. There’s a time to buy gold instead of stocks and there’s a time to buy stocks. I’d be looking at the smaller, lower-cost producers like Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd. (TSX:AEM). That company will return to its regular valuation. Gold could go to $600 and if the XAU went back to that 22%, it’d be trading at like $130. So the XAU could go up 40% if gold went down over $100 to get back to its normal valuation. That’s not the gold stock saying that gold’s going to go down, they’re feeling it or whatever. That was just like the hedge funds were all in the gold stock. The gold stock market is a smaller market than the equity market. They all had to sell everything and that was it.

TGR: What about buying seniors who have just been battered versus juniors that have a potentially higher upside?

DS: For the average investor, I’d be looking at seniors because they are so cheap. When I say juniors, I’m talking about junior producers with lower levels of production because they have cash flow. And, again, it’s the whole leveraging thing. Hedge funds own them, too, and they’re even more liquid than seniors. So instead of the seniors, which all went down, say, 60 to 70%, the juniors, in many instances, went down 70 to 80% or even 90%.

Look at a stock like El Dorado Gold Corp. (TSX:ELD) (AMEX:EGO) (ELD.TO), a junior producer in the late 1990s when all the gold stocks went down 70 or 80%. Eldorado was a 40 to 50 cent penny stock and, because it was a junior producer, it had more leverage when gold went up and ultimately it got as high as $8 or $9. A lot of these little penny stock gold and silver producers with cash flow, could become the next Eldorado. They could bring a lot of 10 or 20:1 deals over the next three to five years.

Another thing that’s going to be really positive for gold and resources going forward, has to do with the behavior of 15 to 20 year bear markets. Usually the big busts come in the first half of that secular trend. If you look at 1929 to 1948, the two worst parts of that bear market were 1929 to 1932, with a 90% decline in the Dow, and 1937 to 1938, with a 50% decline. After that most of the climbs were muted, like 30% down and 25% up. The same thing happened in the 1970s. The 1970 bear market was 36% off and the 1974 bear market was 48% off. From 1975 to 1976 to 1982 at the bottom, the climbs are more gradual. So we had a bad bear market when the tech stocks blew up, which was over 40%. This bear market is over 40%, assuming we hit the bottom a few weeks ago. What you’re going to see now— as volatile as it’s been, it sounds crazy to say this – but, say, we get a one or two year bull market after this bear, you’re going to see volatility dry up. By the way, that’s how you start bull markets. When you start, when the sellers are all out, you usually get everybody giving up, not in a panic, but when the market hasn’t done everything for years. During those times when the market is doing nothing, that’s where resources and gold usually do well.

TGR: So, David, do you have some stock ideas for our readers?

DS: I like Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd. (TSX:AEM) and Royal Gold Inc. (RGLD), which is a royalty company. The two juniors I really like are Fortuna Silver Mines Inc. (FVI) and Silverstone Resources Corp. (TSX.V:SST). They are both smaller silver producers. Actually, Fortuna was up quite nicely today from about 55 to 70 cents but it had been over $2. Fortuna also fell from $4 to 50 cents. It’s back up to around 60 or 70 cents right now. Right now you’re still getting in at a good level. On a totally different sector, if you’re looking at the major market, you can get stuff that’s really beat up. If we get this retest in December, I’d be looking at – and a lot of people will think I’m nuts saying given the state of the economy —some of the casinos. MGM fell over 90% from its high and I usually find that unless the company is going bankrupt, you’re really safe buying something that’s down 90% from its high. For example, this summer I wrote an article in Investor’s Digest of Canada telling people to buy the airlines because the airline index in the States had gone from an all time high of $200 down to $14, which is 90+%. Now the airlines are one of the only sectors that have gone up since July. A lot of the airlines went up 50 to 100% since then. Even with the higher oil prices, airlines are very cheap, for example, WestJet (WJA.TO).

TGR: What’s that one?

DS: It’s a Canadian discount airline. I put WestJet in my newsletter at about $9.50. Now it’s $10.50. The nice thing about it is a lot of airlines are forward selling oil prices to $80. But a lot of them expired this quarter, so now they’re going to be able to go to $60, $70, and $80 oil and it won’t kill them. I also like some of the emerging markets. I like the India Fund (IFN) and the South Korean Fund (EWY) or the Templeton Russia Fund (TRF). They are more leveraged. They usually fall 80% in U.S. dollar terms in a decline and they’ll go up hundreds of percent in a bull market. But I would wait for that retest before going into the emerging markets. I’m kind of all over the place in terms of the types of sectors I like because of the valuation of some of these things. I look for the really beat up sectors—obviously all the precious metal stuff—because they are very, very cheap.

TGR: Dave, Are there any exploration companies that are catching your eye?

DS: Yes, there are a few. The problem with exploration at the moment is cash flow or lack thereof. These companies have no revenues; money is difficult to come by at the moment. They have burn rates. That is why if you are going to buy a smaller junior, you have to look at the producers first. Therefore, I think you have to look at companies who have cash on hand. One such company is Rimfire Minerals Corp. (TSX.V:RFM). In the past they were criticized for being too conservative, much of their budget has their joint venture partners (which include majors) so they will not burn through their cash. They have about C$0.25 (per share) in cash on hand, and the stock trades at C$0.15 (per share) so you are getting the company at a 40% discount to cash. Basically, you are buying at .60 on the dollar to cash and getting all the properties thrown in for free. Also at their burn rate it will probably take them three years to go through their cash position and by then the credit markets will be back.

There are also companies I have on my list that have heaps of cash, large resources and are going into production next year, like ATW Gold Corp. (TSX.V:ATW) and Avion Resources Corp. (TSX.V:AVR). Again, I do not mind if a company is going into production, as it should get cash flow sooner rather than later. Avion is trading at cash.

I also like Full Metal Minerals Corp. (TSX.V:FMM) . The company has had strong results as of late; they are raising money to put their Lucky Shot mine into production. This will be a high grade mine, low cost. It will only have a few years of production, but again that will give them cash flow to survive. The financing they are doing is small and I think they will get it down, even in these markets.

In the case of Rimfire and Full Metal these were C$2.00 per share companies not too long ago, it will take them a bit to base, but it could still happen.

Finally, for a shot in the dark I like Cityview Corporation (CTVWF) (ASX:CVI). This is a very interesting little deal that has collapsed. They were doing a gigantic financing for offshore oil production in Angola, which fell through when the credit markets collapsed. They are now doubling the float of the company to raise capital to put a diamond mine into production in Angola, they are also looking at an oil refinery. This offering should allow them to survive and they will get production from the diamond mine. They will have a huge float (over 900 million shares), but they have the former Angolan Mines Minister as chairman and are positioned to be a leading company in Angola, Right now the stock has a market cap of about 8 million of the new offering. It is something that could turn around huge when this is finished or tank if they can’t get the funds. It is worth a small roll of the dice at $0.01.

Dave’s first book “Stock Market Panic! How to Prosper in the Coming Bear Market” published in January 1999 provided thought provoking arguments on why this great bull market will end in the most vicious bear market of all history. He is also the author of “The Contrarian Who Saved the World,” which explains how markets work. Dave has also been a contributing editor to Canadian MoneySaver and Investors Digest of Canada

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Jeffrey Christian: Gold/Silver Could Spike – Hard Assets Investor

14 Friday Nov 2008

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Jeffrey Christian: Gold/Silver Could Spike – Hard Assets Investor

Interview With Jeffrey Christian of CPM Group

Written by HardAssetsInvestor.com   

Jeffrey Christian is one of the most established names in the commodities industry. The founder of CPM Group, a fundamentally focused commodities research and asset management firm, Christian is also author of ” Commodities Rising” a 2006 book examining the long-term outlook for commodities. Before founding CPM Group, Christian was head of commodities research at J. Aron & Company, which was acquired by Goldman Sachs. He spoke with the editors of HardAssetsInvestor.com about recent trends in the commodities market and how investors should be positioning their portfolios today.

HardAssetsInvestor.com (HAI): Let’s get right to the point, Jeff. The commodities markets and commodities pricing has been crazy recently. Just look at oil, moving from $50/barrel to $140/barrel and back to $50/barrel again. What is going on?

Jeffrey Christian, founder, CPM Group (Christian): Basically what you’re seeing right now is a massive liquidation of assets across all asset classes. You’re seeing institutional investors and proprietary trading desks liquidate their leveraged investment positions, at any price.

They’ve been doing it for a couple of reasons: 1) prices are falling; 2) credit lines are either being pulled back or completely taken away. In many cases, these investors have no choice but to liquidate their positions.

The size of the paper markets for currency and commodity futures is huge. If you look at gold, silver and currencies, the ratio of underlying assets to derivatives is 100-to-1. In commodities, it’s probably 40-to-1. So you have all these paper assets being sold back into the market.

Basically, everybody’s running for the exits at once. That’s what’s causing prices to fall.

HAI: How far along are we in this process?

Christian: There’s no way of knowing for sure. If you look at gold and silver, there has been unprecedented demand for small gold and silver products at the same time that these leveraged positions are being liquidated. You’ve seen very little liquidation on the COMEX. A lot of the liquidations are taking place in over-the-counter products, which makes sense, as that is where the leveraged money was operating.

But there is no visibility into the over-the-counter market. There are simply no numbers. You don’t know how much there was at the start of the liquidation, and you don’t know what’s left. The sense is that we’re pretty close to the end of the de-leveraging process, but we’re not quite there yet.

HAI: What happens when we do get to the end of de-leveraging?

Christian: At the end of the de-leveraging, you will see a divergence between gold and silver on the one hand and industrial commodities on the other. Even today we have this very strong demand for physical gold and silver globally, from India to the Middle East to America. Once the de-leveraging ends, I think gold and silver prices could spike sharply higher, possibly as early as late November or early December.

The industrial metals, on the other hand, might start building a base. I think they may move up from where they are today, but it could take a while. People will look at them through the lens of the recession, and they will assume demand for industrial metals will be less forthcoming.

HAI: Has the collapse in commodity prices scared off some of the new entrants in the commodity space? And won’t that dampen any recovery?

Christian: What we’ve found is that there have been very few commodity funds that have simply closed and left the commodity space. The vast majority of fund companies are simply moving to cash. That’s important because when the prices bottom out, these guys will start investing again, and prices will rise because of their reinvestment patterns.

HAI: What about the large pension funds and institutions, many of whom just got into commodities right near the peak? Will they stay the course, or will they pull up stakes and go home?

Christian: I think some will be scared off but the vast majority will stay. They will be chastened, and for at least the next 12 months, they will remember that the market can go both up and down. But they will still be there.

You saw a similar trend after the Tech bubble. People got in near the high and lost a lot of money, and they were scared off and didn’t invest in Technology for a while. But eventually they came back in, albeit in a more chastened and rigorous fashion.

We’re actually excited that this might mean more interest in the kind of fundamental analysis CPM provides. We think some of the people who rushed into the market and bought long-only indexes and such will say, “I’m still interested in commodities, but I want to do it more intelligently now.” They might want to do a long/short approach more grounded in both macroeconomic analysis and microeconomic analysis of what’s driving individual commodities.

HAI: Let’s turn to some of those individual commodities. We’ve talked already about gold and industrial metals, but what’s your take on the Agriculture space?

Christian: We focus on the tropical Agricultural commodities, and our view varies from commodity to commodity. We’re more bullish today on coffee and less bullish on cocoa, for instance. Cocoa is a more price- and income-sensitive commodity. As people cut back on their budgets, given that cocoa prices have been rising over the past few years, you’ll see people buying less cocoa and chocolate. Once people start drinking coffee, on the other hand, they’re hooked, and they tend to be less cost sensitive and price sensitive.

HAI: What about Energy?

Christian: On Energy, we have a complex view. We think crude oil will be extremely volatile. We’ve moved from a period in the market where you had a very tight supply/demand balance to a period where capacity is exceeding demand. Moreover, capacity will grow more rapidly than demand over the next year or so. In that kind of environment, oil can trade from $50-$70/barrel for a while. Eventually, I think it goes back up.

HAI: During the heyday of the commodity bubble, you cautioned investors that there would be a major supply response to continued high prices. Are we seeing that supply response, and how has it been impacted by the credit crisis and recent price drops?

Christian: You’re seeing discussions of this in the Oil market, and it’s true in base metals and other commodities too. One of the ironic outcomes of the current financial problems is that it will be more bullish or commodities two-to-four years out than would have otherwise been the case.

You did in fact see a supply response to high prices in Oil and other commodities over the past few years. But with the current financial constraints, the provision of financing for new development in a number of commodities is being pulled. You’re also seeing mines cut back and close, in aluminum, copper, molybdenum, gold and other commodities.

So, long term, you will have a supply constraint, and that will be more bullish for prices once demand returns.

HAI: Everyone I talk to is bullish on gold. I wonder: What could go wrong? What could keep gold prices down?

Christian: The answer is that everything has to go right for the price of gold to fall. We’ve spent an incredible amount of time over the past few years thinking about what could cause gold prices to fall, and our conclusion is this: For gold to fall, all of the factors that have driven the price of goal upward over the past seven years would have to reverse. That means better economic conditions, a more stable and predictable currency market, reduced inflationary expectations, stronger equity and bonds markets, and a more stable political environment.

HAI: Sounds nice to me.

Christian: It would be nice, yes. But you really have to get back to a place where the economic, political and financial situations are less worrisome … before you see people sell gold and push prices lower. That’s the most likely scenario for lower gold prices we can come up with.

HAI: One final question: Should investors be considering commodity equities here, given the pullback in those markets?

Christian: We don’t talk publicly about individual equities. But we do, of course, look at them, and it is true that a lot of commodity equities are starting to look more attractive now.

I’ve been spending a lot of my time with clients talking about the difference between value and price. In the gold mining equity market or any other mining market, even Oil and Gas, you saw that the price of the equities last year exceeded what could be considered a reasonable value. Now, the prices of a lot of equities are far below what you could consider a reasonable value for the enterprise.

We’re finding a lot of investors who are working really hard studying different commodity, mining and Oil and Gas investment opportunities. So far, though, they are not pulling the trigger. They’re waiting for a sign that the commodity markets have turned, and then they will come in and buy.

On the supply side, there is a tremendous amount of money looking for good investments right now. On the demand side, you have a lot of projects that are grossly undervalued, because they are caught up in the moves of the broader markets.

HAI: Sounds like an interesting opportunity. Thanks, Jeff, for your time.

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Gold Tests Its Reversal Level: Third Time’s the Charm – Seeking Alpha

14 Friday Nov 2008

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Gold Tests Its Reversal Level: Third Time’s the Charm – Seeking Alpha

By David Nichols of Fractal Gold Report

It took many years of study and analysis — and untold hours of staring at market fractal patterns — before I had one of those special “eureka” moments about the way markets behave at critical reversal points.

Although it’s easy to lose sight of this, the main goal of any speculative endeavor is to figure out the point with the maximum potential return on capital, combined with the minimum potential risk to that capital.

In my opinion, the point where there is the highest reward, with the lowest risk, is the third test of an important reversal level.

Gold is undergoing just such a critical third test right now, and it’s doing that just above the massive $675 energy level that defined the whole last phase of the bull market.

The upside is enormous from here, while the downside can be kept well under control, as a definitive breakdown to new closing lows would not be good in this situation, and would require immediate action to close down positions.

Furthermore, the fractal dimension on the daily gold chart is at a very-high reading of 65, which is telling us that there is enormous energy available to power a very big trend.

This is about as good as it gets for a long set-up in gold.

Subscribers to the daily Fractal Gold Report are positioned well, as we took profits up at $920 right before the last plunge, and we again just took some quick profits before this latest decline, playing the short-term patterns while this bigger opportunity is developing.

Right now is the time to get back into gold for the next major rally phase. It should be starting at any moment.

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Is Hyperinflation on the Horizon? – Seeking Alpha

14 Friday Nov 2008

Posted by jschulmansr in capitalism, commodities, Copper, deflation, Finance, gold, hard assets, inflation, Investing, investments, Latest News, Markets, mining stocks, oil, precious metals, silver, U.S. Dollar, Uncategorized

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Is Hyperinflation on the Horizon? – Seeking Alpha

By Jason Hamlin of Gold Stock Bull

Many gold investors have lost confidence as the metal has failed at several attempts to regain the $1,000 mark and is currently languishing in the $700-$750 range. This 30% decline caught many gold bugs by surprise as the widespread liquidation of assets has hit all sectors and deflation fears rule the moment.

But the total bailout tab, estimated by Forbes to be $5 trillion thus far, will undoubtedly lead to a hyper-inflationary scenario. When this will happen is anyone’s guess, but some analysts are predicting it could take place within the next 3 months and push gold to somewhere between $1,500-$2,000 and oil to the $200-$300 range. I don’t see it happening that quickly and with such magnitude, but I am certain this scenario will indeed manifest eventually. Whether it is in the next few months or next few years, I think precious metals and energy are offering very attractive entry points at the moment. Fire up the printing presses. The bailouts have just begun, with everyone from automakers to airlines getting in line for a government handout of taxpayer dollars.

I am currently short the dollar, long precious metals, long agriculture and long energy. Commodities are oversold and when they whip back to the upside I expect the move to be extremely powerful. Don’t miss it by sitting on the sidelines with cash that is rapidly losing value.

Steve Watson of Infowars.net wrote the following article which was published on Thursday, Nov 13, 2008:

Economic experts have predicted that rampant inflation caused by government stimulus packages will soon take hold of the economy and force precious commodity prices to all time highs.

Johann Santer, MD at Superfund Financial Hong Kong told CNBC that he expects to see gold climb from its current position at $710 to a whopping $1500-$2000 an ounce within the next three months.

“Should money be going into cash, paper?” asked CNBC anchor Martin Soong, to which Santer replied in the negative:

“Not necessarily, we see that for the time being this remains the right strategy to be in, of course people are quite nervous, but once we start to understand again that it will not really protect us from inflation, which most likely will come in the long run, because of all the stimulus packages, I would assume that we should also start looking at the gold price at the moment and find opportunities there.”

Santer explained that deflation is not going to protect us from what he sees as inevitable heavy inflation in the long run caused by the huge amounts of money being pumped into the market in the name of saving the economy.

Santer predicted that we may even see double digit inflation.

“We better get prepared right away and start to look at real assets, for example gold could be really attractive at the moment, trading at $710.” Santer added.

“At the moment there is a major sell off in everything, people are really looking at cash and treasury bills but in the long run, we will not escape from inflation so we have a medium to long term target of $1500 within the next three months.”

Johann Santer’s prediction mirrors that of numerous other fund managers and top investors such as Jim Rogers, Robin Griffiths and Jurg Kiener who are now predicting that global central banks’ insistence on printing their way out of economic turmoil is setting the stage for a hyperinflationary holocaust, a knock-on effect of which will be gold’s acceleration towards $2,000, as demand for precious metals outstrips supply.

Meanwhile another investor, Puru Saxena, CEO of Puru Saxena Wealth Management, has told CNBC that within the next four to five years he sees oil prices skyrocketing to up to $300 a barrel.

“Over the last few months we have seen widespread liquidation of all assets, nothing has been spared, commodities, corporate bonds, real estate, equities in the emerging markets, the Dow Jones the FTSE, everything has been sold because of distressed liquidation. However, if you look at the supply and demand dynamics of most of the natural resources, whether it’s energy or food or mining companies, they are still very very bullish.” Saxena stated.

He explained that he feels people are only looking at one side of the equation at the moment with regards to the decline in the value of oil, which is currently hovering around the $55 per barrel mark.

Saxena predicts that we are going to see a huge rebound in resources in the next couple of years due to increased demand and reduced supply.

“Obviously no one has a clue where the market will be in two or three years from now, or indeed the price of oil, but over the next four or five years I suspect it will go to over two or three hundred dollars a barrel.” Saxena added.

With OPEC continually cutting oil output it is not surprising to hear such predictions emerging from investors. We have been continually warned that the sharp decline in oil prices is a temporary respite only.

We have previously reported on the corporate elite’s efforts to hike oil prices up to the $200 mark. Earlier this year, a report by Goldman Sachs Group Inc. forecasted that oil prices will reach $150 to $200 dollars a barrel within 2 years. JPMorgan Chase & Co have also predicted that prices could rise to $200 a barrel. Such levels would set the stage for a possibly catastrophic post industrial revolution.

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
– Thomas Jefferson

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Lower Prices Now- Massive Inflation Later? – Seeking Alpha

13 Thursday Nov 2008

Posted by jschulmansr in commodities, Copper, deflation, Finance, gold, hard assets, inflation, Investing, investments, Latest News, Markets, mining stocks, precious metals, silver, Uncategorized, uranium

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Lower Prices Now- Massive Inflation Later? – Seeking Alpha

By Richard Shaw of QVM Group

The global economy is declining. As a result, prices of important kinds of “stuff” is falling. Governments are pouring money onto the markets to solve a problem that may have been caused by easy money originally.

If you party too much and awake the next day with a hangover, taking a shot of alcohol may take the immediate pain away.  However, it only delays and probably increases the pain when you finally decide to stop drinking, or become so sick you can’t drink any more. Taking that morning after drink is referred to as taking a “hair of the dog that bit you”.

Some people are concerned that the US and perhaps some other countries, particularly the UK, may be in the economic functional equivalent of taking a hair of the dog that bit them.

So What?

If that perspective makes sense, then what would be the consequence?

The original easy money caused an asset bubble. The absence of easy money caused a deflation in asset prices (commodities, real estate, stocks and most bonds) — pretty much everything but short-term sovereign debt.

Once the money being poured on begins to move, asset prices will begin to rise again. Then the question is whether all the extra money will make a new asset bubble, leaving governments without remaining tools to deal with a subsequent crisis? Either way inflation, not deflation will be the situation.

Investment coping strategies during inflation are different than during deflation. Investors need a plan to deal with the eventual change in circumstance. If hyperinflation were to occur, which some fear, all bets are off.  If the more likely “normal” or high inflation (not hyperinflation) occurs, shifts in asset class weights are appropriate.

Asset Class Rotation Based on Conditions

 

Note: We have stated before that we deviated from our core asset allocation, non-market timing approach this summer for assets we control by going substantially to cash before the current unpleasantness. We think standing aside as a train wreck is coming straight at you is not the same as market timing, which we do not practice — it’s self-preservation.  We think rebalancing a diversified set of asset classes works better than market timing under normal circumstances. This discussion is about re-weighting a fully invested and diversified portfolio, not about going entirely to one class or the other.

 

 

Monitoring Prices for Deflation or Inflation

If you are concerned about turning points between deflation and inflation, the CPI is not a good place to look.  It’s well known to be limited in scope and may also be managed to some degree by the government, which not only is a player (with indexed entitlement programs and inflation indexed bonds), but is also the scorekeeper and the final court of appeals.

The place to look for price level changes is directly at the prices of key items themselves.  They’ll let you know whether we are in deflation or inflation.

The rate of change of prices (shape of the curve) as well as absolute price levels will inform you.

We would suggest following this basket:

  • oil (USO)
  • copper (JJC)
  • gold (GLD)
  • soybeans (JJG for grains)
  • EUR/USD fx (FXE)
  • USD/JPY fx (FXY)
  • 2-Year Treasuries (SHY for 1-3 yr T’s)
  • 10-Year Treasuries (IEF for 7-10 year T’s)
  • 30-Year Treasuries (TLT for 20+ year T’s)

The charts below are for five-year, monthly, perpetual near-month futures contracts, but stock investors can get a similar view by observing the ETF or ETN listed after each category (not all perfect matches, but reasonably useful if you don’t have spot or futures prices available).

Current Situation

There is no inflation, except in the price of Treasuries, particularly short dated Treasuries, as investors flee risk and prize liquidity.  The price premium on Treasuries will melt when investors once again move to riskier assets for yield and gain.

We are in a deflationary period.  No signs of inflation in these charts.

 

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Gold

Oil

Copper

Soybeans

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Yen
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30-Year Treasuries

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Nov 13 08:50 AM

I think it all boils down to MV=PY. V dropped off a cliff. M is blowing up. If/when V rises, we’re going to be in for quite a bit of inflation.
JSCHULMANSR- Look for Gold to trade between $650 – $850 until the deflation period ends (barring any middle east flare-ups). Once inflation sets in 1st stage of next leg of the market will take us to $1500 – $2000oz. I do think however, this time the miners will be first out of the gate in the next leg up. In my opinion now is the time to load up. My disclosure I am long many gold, silver, platinum, palladium mining companys. As a side note I also think Uranium Miners are also good for the long term view and yes, I am long many of those too. This is my humble opinion, as always do your own research and consult with your own qualified investment and financial consultants.

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Gold Bugs Beware – Seeking Alpha

13 Thursday Nov 2008

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Gold Bugs Beware – Seeking Alpha

By: Adam Katz of Plus EV

I hope that all the gold bugs are preparing for the next leg down. Although risk does exist on both sides, the path of least resistance is down.

Then and Now

When researching gold prices, it is common practice to use historical quotes to give some indication of where prices may go. In my opinion that is a very bad strategy. ‘Inflation adjusted highs’ is simply a fancy way of saying that the price was here, we multiplied by some factor and so the inflation adjusted high is X. Therefore with more inflation the price MUST take out that previous high. That’s like saying that Yahoo shares traded for $100 in the past and since earnings have expanded since then, we must ultimately breach that price – ignoring the P/E ratio buyers are willing to pay and by that I mean demand.

You see, just how a lack of viable (good companies) alternatives led to Yahoo’s high price due to the price multiple, it was a similar case with gold in the 70s. A lack of alternatives and poor inter-connectivity in global markets made gold the only truly acceptable global inflation hedge and safe haven. Now things are different both fundamentally and structurally. One structural example is the increased use of derivatives and the use of treasuries to act as margin for these contracts. This has led to treasuries significantly outperforming gold as margin calls and safe haven buying have led to escalating purchases of treasuries.

Another problem with using a historical reference is that we have never experienced such a high level of de-leveraging – due to the excessively high credit buildup, that up until earlier this year fueled gold’s rise. Essentially the market is correcting the imbalances, exactly what the bugs were calling for, except it’s working against them. The size of the de-leveraging is dwarfing the capital that has been injected into the economy.

Gold ETFs

I read a great article on gold ETFs the other day and apologize to the author for not referencing it here as I cannot find it. Please post it as a comment if anyone knows what I am referring to.

The author was arguing that the landscape is very difference in the gold market because of the existence of the streetTracks Gold ETF (GLD) and the prices at which retail investors originally bought in at. The author argued that a lot of the purchases were made at prices above $600, and those investors may be tempted to sell if the price reaches their entry level. We may see a squeeze of sorts on the gold market, should that ETF be forced to liquidate sizable holdings at a fast pace to meet redemptions. Should that occur at the same time as the IMF or a central bank selling gold to meet short term expenses, there could be a structural crash in the price of gold.

The IMF and Central Banks

Institutions setup to pump liquidity into the system at crucial times can come under strain when their balance sheets are stretched and they are forced to raise capital. This is definitely not the largest risk to gold, but it does exist. The reason that the risk is minimal is that gold represents a relatively small percentage of the IMF and most countries’ reserves. Things would have to get really bad to force gold selling by these institutions.

New Demand

It’s hard to imagine a source of new demand entering the picture. While consumers globally are stretched, expensive jewellery is the last thing on your shopping list. With the majority of gold demand coming from jewellery, it’s unlikely that we seen a strong increase in net demand. You can make an even stronger argument by looking at some evidence of gold being pawned worldwide and demand for jewellery being even lower than published statistics.

Then there’s gold coin demand. This is retail investment demand and if history has taught us anything, it’s that betting against retail speculators is a good strategy. Many dealers are reporting shortages due to the higher demand for gold coins by retail purchasers. This has led many an unsophisticated investor to conclude that there is a shortage of gold and price must go up. As this group of investors continues to load up on coins, this contrarian speculator continues to get more bearish.

Supply

Gold miners just got huge production cost cuts. Mining is an energy intensive business, with tons upon tons of rock needed to find just a little gold. As their core costs come down, their margins increase relative to the market price. However, this is not a market in which to expect rising profit margins. This will enable the miners to decrease the price for the raw metal and try to make sales in a time of falling demand. Lower production costs may also stimulate supply in the short term as miners try to benefit from the lower energy prices and wider margins they are currently seeing.

What About Future Inflation?

What about it? I take two approaches here:

  1. The current trend is falling prices, a shortage in supply of credit globally, and weakening physical demand. You can try to catch a falling knife or claim that commodities aren’t in a bear market, but that is risky business.
  2. The reflationary trade will likely result in gold prices moving up at some point in the future, but outperforming equities? I don’t think so. At least not from the lows that we ultimately reach. But the government stimulus is inflationary! While that may be true, where is that stimulus going? Take Caterpillar (CAT) for example, who would have to increase in value by 150% to reach its previous highs. This isn’t a dotcom company with no real business behind it, this is the leader in global infrastructure. So when global fiscal stimulus picks up and that money finds its way to the market, credit is expanded, but the net benefit that a company like CAT realizes far exceeds the dilution effects of expanding the money supply. Also, companies own lots of real assets which will adjust up in value on top of the contracts they will receive which will expand their bottom line. Cost cutting is another avenue where good managers can increase value. It’s almost a nice excuse to clean house, then when things start moving again, they can be prudent and try to get technology to replace labor where possible.

(Please note that the above chart is dated July.)

What the chart above shows is a graphical interpretation of my argument. Firstly, gold rose far more significantly than consumer credit in the 70s. To hit the inflation adjusted high, gold would have to outpace the growth in consumer credit by a large margin which I don’t think is happening. In fact, I see consumer credit having low or negative growth for the next 12-18 months as mortgage, credit card and auto loan terms get stricter. As you can see in the chart, this happened in the early 90s as consumer credit didn’t grow. Gold price remained relatively flat and then dropped significantly (in percentage terms), once credit started rising again. Why?

In recoveries, the expectation is decreasing risk and an eventual boom. In that environment, the opportunity cost of holding gold increases significantly and money rushes out of cash, gold, and treasuries and into equities. Although this causes a drop in gold price in the medium term, constantly rising credit will still result in a higher gold price as the cycle plays out, but from trough to peak, equities will outperform gold. It is during the second half of the credit boom that investors are advised to shift out of equities and increase gold holdings.

Gold’s Status as a Safe Haven

So has gold’s position as a safe haven been threatened? In a way, yes. It’s not that the fundamentals of gold aren’t attractive, but rather the existence of alternative safe havens. As far as the fundamentals go, gold’s biggest strength is also its biggest weakness. The limited supply of gold is often argued to be the reason for its great store of value, but that limited liquidity also makes it subject to volatile swings, usually into overvalued territory. As word of gold’s safe haven status has spread over the decades, worrying times bring a rush of people into gold, often more demand than the metal can handle. For that reason we see spikes that leave buyers at the peak feeling like they’ve been cheated.

Access to global markets changes the entire landscape, and the nature of a safehaven can change. Whether it’s unfairly beaten down equities, raw land in a politically stable country, or fiscally sound sovereign debt, the global markets present a wide variety of safehaven alternatives. In general, these investments require more sophistication to identify bargain prices and thus don’t have the same over crowding problem as gold.

As an example, Buffett’s 10% preferreds implicitly (in my opinion) backed by the government in the case of Goldman (GS) and with a solid company like GE, these investments may in fact be lower risk than gold and on an adjusted return basis should significantly outperform gold over the next 5 years, even though he may have acted too early.

Gold’s Performance

That being said, gold has outperformed since the peak and YTD – so it’s safe haven status isn’t totally destroyed – it just has competition. That being said, other investments like Japanese Yen have far outperformed gold.

Conclusion

The gold trade was over crowded and is likely going to continue to unwind as commodity prices have retreated signfiicantly and might continue to do so. Structural issues such as ETFs which have never experienced liquidation strain may become a big piece of the puzzle. Although gold will likely be at a higher price than today’s at some point in the future, speculators should brace for lower prices in the interim. Then, once prices turn around, investors should take careful note of trough equity valuation before dumping their funds into gold.

 

 

Disclosure: Trading with a bear bias

 

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Nov 13 09:05 AM

Your analysis is great -except for one thing. You dont take into account the goldbug(just as many permabears in equity markets think the dow should be at much much lower levels fundamentally speaking but fail to take bulls into account) -The goldbugs are true bulls -many are dollar cost averaging and the price whether up or down, it signals buy -buy- buy . I think you may ruffle some of their feathers with this article-being they are goldbugs – The spread between physical prices and paper is where you will here it most
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    Nov 13 09:09 AM

    So many words… All you need to know is USD down means gold up,and vice versa
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    I’m sitting tight with my gold mining stocks waiting for the USD to tank. When that happens gold will explode to the upside.
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    mr.g,

    I do take goldbugs into account (I’m not a fan of gold bugs). The truth is that being a gold bug is such a weak investment strategy that although they are fairly large in numbers (and very loud), they don’t collectively have enough capital to really affect the market. What happens with jewelery demand and industrial use is far more important. At present the amount of fund liquidation far exceeds the dollar cost averaging going on. Take a look at the gold COT’s.

    Marp,

    That kind of simplistic analysis is exactly why the gold space gets crowded and overvalued. All goldbugs do is preach value (with regards to inflation), yet don’t care what price they’re buying gold at. Take a look at this chart and tell me that there’s no basis risk in that strategy www.plusev.ca/gold-usd…/. Gold has strengthened far more than the dollar has weakened.

    Moses,

    I agree with that strategy.. I think that gold stocks will beat gold price out of the gate when the time comes. Energy costs come down 2/3rds and if gold only comes down 1/2 then theres lots of extra cushion on their margins

  • Jschulmansr- I too think gold stocks will beat gold prices out of the gate which is why I am loading up at these low levels (many companies under book value). See previous posts…
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    An Interview With Peter Cardillo: Part I & 2- Features and Interviews – Hard Assets Investor

    12 Wednesday Nov 2008

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    An Interview With Peter Cardillo: Part I & 2 – Features and Interviews – Hard Assets Investor

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    Part 1 

    Mike Norman, HardAssetsInvestor.com (Norman): Hello everybody, and welcome to HardAssetsInvestor.com. I’m Mike Norman, your host. Today my guest is Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Avalon Partners.

    Peter, nice to see you; thanks a lot for coming on the show. Look, you’ve been in the business a long time, Peter, you’ve been in the business a very long time. Tell us your thoughts about what we have gone through recently, particularly this enormous market plunge, not just in stocks but in all asset classes. Have you seen anything like this in your career?

    Peter Cardillo, chief market economist, Avalon Partners (Cardillo): Percentagewise yes, of course, but you know, in such a short period of time, the answer is absolutely no.

    I have not gone through anything like this before in terms of market declines, of the market losing 20% in one week; that never happened before, and of course the reason for that is, obviously what we had out there was a fear factor that was gripping everyone, and of course, with the credit market seizing up, that just added even more fear out there, and then of course the blowing up of a lot of hedge funds didn’t help either. That’s probably one of the reasons why we saw this market dive the way it did.

    Usually the markets always discount, and this market has discounted a lot of things, just recession, and probably even a recession is going to be a little bit more severe than we previously were contemplating, but nevertheless, as I said, the way the market dropped, you might say, fast market action that we had, and the volatility that we had was all due to this unwinding of assets, whether they were equities, bonds or hard assets, commodities, you name it; it went all down at one time.

    Norman: Except for the highest quality, like Treasuries. Where are we, do you think, in this whole process? You sort of alluded to perhaps that the smoke may be clearing. We’ve discounted a lot, we’ve discounted perhaps a very, very deep recession, and as you mentioned, investors have pulled out of assets of all classes with the exception of the safest, most liquid. Where are we now, in your mind, in this process? Are we in the middle, are we still in the early stages, or are we closer to the end?

    Cardillo: I think we’re closer to the end of the crisis as we know it. In terms of economic activity, I think it’s going to be at least two or three quarters of some real tough going here. We’ll probably see unemployment climb above 7.5% and we’ll probably see inflation really fall off a cliff.

    Now there’s a positive side to that, and of course there’s a negative side to that. In fact, I think if you read between the lines, if you heard today Mr. Bernanke, obviously you know he’s for another stimulus package; why is he for that? Very simple: Because he knows that we’re in for some rough times here in terms of economic activity, and the greatest fear out there – although I believe it was avoided – was a deflationary period. Yeah, I think that was avoided; I really do.

    Norman: Through the actions taken by the Fed and the government and other central banks, you mean?

    Cardillo: Absolutely; there’s no doubt in my mind that if we didn’t have those actions, this market could have been really down even another 20%, 30%, maybe 40% from these levels.

    Norman: Some say that the government intervention in all its forms – the central bank and the federal government – is a negative thing. Do you agree or disagree with that?

    Cardillo: No, I think it’s a positive, but it does have some negative implications. Obviously somewhere along the line, when we do get back on track, the government, the Fed, is going to have to fight inflation and not disinflation or deflation. You’re printing money, you’re creating deficits that have gone into orbit, and that’s not a positive, that’s always a negative.

    But as I said before, right now they needed to avert a serious deflationary spiral within the economy, and I think they’ve done that, not only here domestically, but on a global scale as well. Look, you saw the numbers out of China; growth is at 9%. Now 9% is pretty strong, but by the same token, for an emerging market, that was almost at 11%, 12% – it’s down rather sharply.

    Norman: A big surprise there, no question about it. OK, folks; that concludes my first interview with Peter Cardillo. Stay tuned at this Web site because we’ll be having the second interview with my guest and much more to come. We’ll see you soon, take care.

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    Mike Norman, HardAssetsInvestor.com (Norman): Hi everybody, and welcome back to the second part of my interview with Peter Cardillo, chief market economist at Avalon Partners.

    Peter, in our last interview, you were talking about the Fed and other central banks and actions by the government that have prevented a deflation. Now leading up to this, over the past five or six years, the big concern has been inflation. Indeed, we’ve seen materials prices rising across the board, a lot of concern about inflation, we’ve seen a fall in the exchange value of the U.S. dollar. All this happened very quickly, this sudden idea or notion of a deflation

    Peter Cardillo, chief market economist, Avalon Partners (Cardillo): Well, obviously, you know, when you have the credit markets seizing up and no one is willing … when the banks are not willing to lend to each other, that’s a serious problem. Look, what we went through … there were signs of what happened in the early 1930s, there’s no question about that. However, I think that the governments certainly have learned the lesson now in terms of avoiding a deflationary era, and that’s why I think the fact that they came out with all these stimulus packages, rescue packages – whatever you want to call them – basically is the right thing at the right time.

    Now, grant you, maybe the Federal Reserve and the Treasury were a little bit asleep at the wheel in the sense that they should have seen this brewing, because we had excessive real estate speculation. And unfortunately, the former maestro who created this – Mr. Greenspan that’s right, who basically is somewhat responsible for this – up until his last months in office he always said, well, we have a slight bubble in the real estate market in certain areas of the country, but we don’t have a real bubble.

    Obviously that is not the case and we did have a bubble. But the problem is that no one knew the extent and the depth of the problem until it finally nearly collapsed the system.

    Norman
    : Now prior to this implosion, some of the best-performing asset markets were raw materials, commodities … this idea that we have a lot of emerging new economies, developing economies; you mentioned China, India for example. Those have been some of the hardest-hit markets on the way down. With the efforts now by the Fed and other central banks and governments to sort of reflate the system to avert a deflationary collapse, will these markets and these countries resume as the leaders?

    Cardillo:
    I think they will, but it’s going to take some time. I think we can see the equity markets regain over a short period of time. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see us recapture Dow 10,000 very shortly, but this bear market that we’re in – and this is a global bear market, it’s certainly not only domestic, that’s for sure – is going to take a while. This bear grip that we have is not going to let loose, but we’ll see an improvement. I think we’ll see an improvement not only in prices but in psychology, and the key is confidence, restoring confidence, and we’re beginning to see that.

    If you look at the overnight interbanking lending, you’ll see that the spreads are beginning to narrow, and once we get them down to levels where you’ll see the credit market unclog and banks begin to lend again, that will be the key; the confidence restored in the credit markets.

    Norman:
    Do you think what has transpired will lead to sort of a fundamental change in the way we view markets, away from this sort of free-market fundamentalism, as it’s called, to where you have markets much more regulated and managed by authorities, governments, central banks, whatever?

    Cardillo:
    Well, if you’re asking me do I think capitalism is dead, the answer to that is no. Are we going to have a shift; are there going to be a lot of regulations? Yes, but I think this so-called small part of socialism that we may have entered will not be long-lasting; I think it will be short-lived.

    Norman
    : All right, thank you very much Peter. Well, you heard it here: Capitalism is not dead, folks, so stick around here, come back; we’re going to have a lot more on this interview series. Thanks for stopping by. This is Mike Norman; see you next time.

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    Brent Cook: Rocks ‘n’ Stocks – The Gold Report

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    Brent Cook: Rocks ‘n’ Stocks -m The Gold Report

    By Brent Cook of Exploration Insights

    Source: The Gold Report  11/11/2008

     

    With feet planted on the ground and eyes trained on balance sheets, Brent Cook has earned a reputation for recognizing which juniors have the best chance of beating the odds and where rocks have the greatest potential for producing profit. An experienced professional geologist who has examined properties in more than 60 countries and learned the investment side of the business from master Rick Rule, Brent inherited investor/analyst editor Paul van Eeden’s newsletter in February. He repurposed it into Exploration Insights, and in this exclusive interview, shares some of his insights with The Gold Report readers.

    The Gold Report: You talk about capital preservation as a key tenet of Exploration Insights, and you focus on the juniors. With the markets having gone totally crazy and practically everyone experiencing depreciation rather than preservation or appreciation, what do you see on the horizon for juniors? And how far out is that horizon?

    Brent Cook: It’s really tough for the juniors right now, but let me talk about capital preservation because that is a really important aspect of what I try and do in Exploration Insights. I don’t take a shotgun approach to investing. Rather I prefer to take careful and selective aim on targets. Right now we have about seven stocks in the portfolio and that’s it. I don’t ever anticipate having more than 20. I’m so selective because I’ve learned that is the best way not to lose money. That’s Rule No. 1: Don’t lose money. In this junior sector you can lose it awfully fast if you are not very selective on your purchases. More often than not in the junior sector it’s what you don’t buy that’s more important than what you do. Although to be honest, over the past six months even our stocks have been hammered.

    I’m very cautious in what I buy and I’ve been preaching or suggesting that people save their cash for the opportunities coming up. We’re starting to see some of those now. That’s what I mean by capital preservation—very, very selectively buying something that you are confident in the value of the assets and, that you’re getting at less than net asset value. Also, and this is Rule No. 2: If your investment thesis is proven wrong, sell. Once you’re investment thesis goes from certainty to hope, you’ve already lost your money.

    TGR: But from certainty to hope in this market environment, you could lose money and still be invested in viable short- and long-term companies. How do you reconcile that?

    BC: You don’t lose until you sell. An example of a stock that is down considerably but we haven’t sold is Altius Minerals Corp. (TSX.V:ALS). They have about $180 million of cash, in the bank, which equates to about $6.40 per share and you can buy it for around $4.20 or $4.30. Altius is run by a very smart and committed group who will do smart things with the money. Selecting companies like that, to me, represents a means of long-term capital preservation.

    TGR: But doesn’t the cash-versus-cost comparison depend on the burn rate?

    BC: Exactly right. Altius’s burn rate is basically zero. With their revenue from a royalty stream on Voisey’s Bay, a number of other smaller royalties and cash payments from other projects they have joint ventured out, it means they are hardly spending any of their cash at all—maybe a few million bucks a year at most when they have $180 million sitting in the bank.

    But you’re right. I see people coming out with recommendations that you should buy a company selling for less than cash in the bank just because it represents a discount. But if you look at what most of these companies are doing with their cash; next year they may be broke. Buying a company that is drilling a project that doesn’t have or offer any value is not buying something for less than cash. Make sure the cash stays put and is used for something intelligent.

    TGR: So basically Altius can survive a long time because it has a nice revenue stream. But why would we expect it to go up, given that the royalty stream is basically an annuity? Why would it go above the cash in the bank?

    BC: At this point in the market, Altius has the opportunity to invest in projects and companies that are severely undervalued. They can do that at a real discount to NAV or some other metric and make money that way.

    TGR: So you look at them as smart management. Is there a history of finding projects like this or investing in companies like this that we should know about?

    BC: Yes. Their model is one in which they generate conceptual exploration and business ideas and venture them out to other companies with a lot more money or the ability to take on more risk and do the hard work. As you know, most exploration projects go bust, so these guys generate the ideas and vend them out. Somebody else spends the money and, by and large, they go bust. That costs Altius hardly anything and they maintain their business of generating ideas and turning them out until one works. One transaction that worked very well was a uranium project they ventured out to Aurora Energy in Labrador. Aurora found a uranium deposit, spent tens of millions proving it up, and it looked like a very legitimate deposit. Altius was able to make $130 million or so out of an initial investment of about $600,000 by selling shares of Aurora, which represented their interest in the project.

    TGR: That’s nice.

    BC: Yeah. That’s the type of guys they are, just taking advantage of whatever the market offers. So you’ve got a lot of cash, you’ve got low burn, you’ve got a small income stream, and you’ve got smart guys at a discount to cash. That’s pretty good.

    TGR: That’s a nice blend. As you look at your other juniors, either in your portfolios or ones you know about in general, are these viable if gold sticks in the $700 to $800 range?

    BC: Most of the juniors don’t have any gold; they have the hope of finding gold. Rationally speaking, it doesn’t make any difference to them what the gold price is if they don’t have any gold. Of course, they’re hoping to find something that has gold, and obviously, a higher gold price would be better for them if they do.

    But there are companies out there now who have gold resources in the ground and they are selling for less than the net asset value of their deposits. Likewise, there are a number of companies that, although they don’t have a compliant gold resource, they have released enough data that I can work up my own resource estimate, then what it will cost to build it, mine it, etc. and show they are selling for considerably less than that value. You can buy those sorts of companies right now really cheap, assuming a $700 or $800 gold price of course.

    The juniors that don’t have a lot of cash in their pockets and no discoveries on the horizon are in serious trouble. I see this going on for a couple of years, to be honest. I see a serious shakeout coming. The first question you want to ask any company is “How much money do you have and how long is it going to last?” If they don’t have two years’ worth of cash and something seriously legitimate to work on, they have problems.

    TGR: If gold sticks to $700, how difficult will it be to get projects joint ventured out?

    BC: To a major mining company, $700 is not a bad price. A Barrick or Goldcorp that makes decent money at $700 gold can afford to do a joint venture with a company that has—and this is really key, Rule No. 3 if you will—a large target. So the project or concept being joint ventured has to offer a major discovery. It can’t be something small and I’m afraid from my experience most companies are really peddling small targets.

    It also has to offer good margins with cash production costs of maybe $350 or $400 an ounce or less. That’s what the majors are looking for. Also, when evaluating the project you always have to view the economics using the gold price in local currency. Plus, I think we’re going to see capital and labor costs start coming down. In fact I am seeing it now virtually across the board.

    TGR: Are such large targets out there?

    BC: Oh, yes. One I like a lot is MAG Silver Corp. (TSX:MAG) (NYSE:MVG). They’ve made a major discovery in Mexico adjacent to the world’s richest silver deposit, Fresnillo. It was owned by Peñoles, and spun it out into a public company, Fresnillo LLC, which is now MAG Silver’s joint venture partner. The asset is probably the highest-grade silver discovery in decades. It averages over a kilo a ton, it has some 240 million ounces of silver, and it’s open to further discoveries. Plus there’s gold and base metals.

    I figure that MAG Silver’s 44% is worth on the order of $15 a share to MAG Silver if silver is $10. MAG Silver is selling for about $5 a share. Fresnillo has been creeping up their holdings of MAG Silver; they own about 19% now; and MAG Silver’s 44% is worth a lot more than $5 to Fresnillo. So I see that as a takeover scenario coming at some price appreciably in excess of $5. That’s one instance of a high-grade deposit that a major is definitely coveting.

    TGR: Is there a 43-101 on this deposit?

    BC: It was put out in December. It comes in at about 240 million ounces of silver grading a bit over one kilogram per ton silver, about 2.2 grams per ton gold, plus base metals. MAG has 44% of that. Once you take out recovery and dilution, it’s about $350 a ton rock in the ground. It’s going to cost on the order of $60 a ton to mine and mill it, so there’s a lot of money to be made there. It’s adjacent to Fresnillo’s operating mine, they’ve got plans to go in and bring this into production. Everything’s set up. No political issues, no technical issues.

    TGR: It seems a little bit too easy.

    BC: It does. Those deals are few and far between, but you don’t need many of those.

    TGR: We’re hearing a lot of money on the sideline is going to start coming back into the market selectively. As it does, will it go into the precious metals with the less-than-optimistic returns experienced over the last two years?

    BC: I hear that as well, but I don’t know how much money there really is on the sidelines. I work with a number of funds in North America and Europe that really don’t have much cash to invest, particularly in illiquid juniors. About $400 billion has come into the resource sector since 2003, much of it in commodities. The $30 billion that came in to the Toronto Stock Exchange through private placements, which mostly came from funds, has been wiped out—and these guys are looking at redemptions coming again at the end of the year. So there’s not much money there that I see.

    In terms of individuals, it’s tough. Net worth for most people I know has been halved or worse. I don’t see a lot of money on the sidelines. There’s some, certainly, and I suspect we’re going to see the first thing people migrate into is the large gold companies because they’re liquid. They’ve been decimated as well and that’s the intelligent thing to do. But on the junior side, it’s a long time before we see much come in. You see people putting out fantastic drill results with no effect. Take a company like Hathor Exploration Ltd. (TSX.V:HAT), which has a uranium discovery in the Athabasca Basin. They’re trading about where they were when they first made this discovery, and since then they’ve drilled 30-odd holes with grades of something like 46 meters grading 3.1% uranium. That’s incredible. That’s $3,000 rock, I think. Yet the stock has backed off from $4.50 to $1.50 despite that news.

    TGR: But is it that news or is it the price of uranium? It’s gone down so dramatically in the past year.

    BC: That’s hurt it, but a deposit like this is one-of-a-kind. Cameco’s and Areva’s mills are desperate for ore, and this deposit sits within trucking distance of both. And a key point with Hathor’s deposit, as well as MAG’s and others I am looking at, is that the deposits offer the possibility of very high margin mines. Regardless of the metal prices or global economy we are still using metals and profitable mines will always be coveted.

    TGR: So this a situation in which they have permits, no political issues and infrastructure available nearby.

    BC: There are always political and permit issues with uranium deposits, but less so here. This deposit’s being drilled out right now. There’s no 43-101 resource yet, but it certainly is a discovery that could be significant in an area where people are mining uranium—and the world’s two largest uranium producers have underutilized mills next door. This is another instance where people who have the money could buy this asset. This could be a serious discovery.

    TGR: When is the quantification—the 43-101—expected?

    BC: The discovery is under a lake to some degree, so they need to come in this winter and drill through the ice to really prove it up. Whenever it freezes, they’ll start drilling. I’m guessing we’ll see a resource estimate probably by early summer.

    TGR: Can they drill only in the winter?

    BC: They drilled this summer, but once the lake freezes, they can get on top of it and get a better handle of what the deposit looks like and come up with a resource estimate. It’s not a deep lake, 10 or 15 meters deep, so it’s easy enough to drain and start the mine. It won’t be an issue in that respect; it’s just a matter of proving it up first.

    TGR: You suggested that when individual investor money comes back into the market, it probably will come back in to the large gold producing companies. Not long ago Kerry Smith, an analyst at Haywood Securities, basically recommended investing in large gold producers over the juniors because the seniors are trading at such low multiples. What’s your advice to our individual investors?

    BC: I don’t see any problem buying majors and waiting for the market to turn and then moving down into the smaller companies. That’s a smart way to go about it. It’s not what I’m doing, because I believe I can select the few juniors’ stocks that have real assets that a major is going to buy. Right now it’s a matter of picking the few assets that are high enough quality that a major will want to buy—that will give me a lot more leverage than waiting for Barrick to go up 20% or 30%.

    TGR: Then the thrust of your investment portfolio advice for the next several years is acquisitions.

    BC: Yes. I’ve been following three investment scenarios. One is buying a few companies like Altius that are significantly capitalized, smart guys, trading less than cash value. The second is going for the acquisitions, the people drilling out or with deposits that are high enough margin and quality that a major would want to buy. And the third is going after a couple of very speculative companies that are pure exploration plays, but the risk-to-reward is huge if they’re successful.

    For these very high-risk plays everything I’ve seen in the geology and results so far tells me they have a decent shot—a long shot but a decent long shot—at hitting. If they hit, we’re looking at a tenfold increase. So those are the three things I focus on. I’m not buying small companies selling for less than cash or that sort of thing. And definitely not any companies with what I perceive to be small targets. There are a lot of those out there and they’re very good at getting rid of that cash.

    TGR: But if it’s less than cash and either an acquisition target or a high risk-reward given its geology and location, you’ll look at it?

    BC: That’s right.

    TGR: Does your view of the juniors change if the U.S. and then the world go into a recession?

    BC: No. I’m assuming that happens anyway.

    TGR: So you expect the resources sector to still be in demand.

    BC: Selectively. I do believe we’re heading into a global recession and it’s going to be a damper on commodity prices. The credit crisis or liquidity crisis right now is going to severely limit money coming into the sector as well as money coming in to build new mines. At the same time, the major companies have to replace the resources we’re depleting—and they have to replace them with high-grade resources—regardless of what the metal prices do.

    I’ll give you an example. We’re producing 15 million tons of copper a year; which is about the amount of copper ever mined from the Bingham copper deposit in Utah. This is one of the biggest in the world. So on a yearly basis we’re depleting one major copper deposit. Same with gold. We’re running through about 80 million ounces of gold a year. That’s all the gold ever produced from the Carlin Trend in Nevada. That’s the dichotomy here: Nobody wants resources but everybody wants them.

    TGR: Would you comment on any specific companies? How about Miranda Gold Corp. (TSX.V:MAD)?

    BC: Great company. Great management. Great geologists. Selling for cash just about. Actually, I was just on their project in Nevada in mid-October. They’ve got a number of joint ventures with major and junior companies. I don’t know that they have a discovery in their hands, but they’re smart. This is one of these joint venture companies that come up with the ideas and then bring in the major companies to test them.

    TGR: So they fit into your first investment scenario, selling for less than cash with the potential of a find?

    BC: I would say so. I think they have about $11.5 million in the bank and their market cap’s about that too. They have Newcrest just finishing a drill program on Horse Mountain. Who knows what’s going to come out of it, but if they discover what they’re looking for, it’s huge.

    TGR: That’s true of everybody, though.

    BC: Not necessarily. Most people I run into are not really looking for big deposits. They may claim they are, but the geology isn’t right.

    TGR: How about Virginia Mines Inc. (TSX:VGQ)?

    BC: Another great company. André Gaumond is one of the most honest, ethical guys in the business and he’s followed the joint venture model as well. He’s had a bit of problem because the discovery he has with Breakwater is a base metal deposit and base metals haven’t done too well. But in terms of a company, that’s a great one. You can definitely trust your money with them.

    TGR: Rimfire Minerals Corp. (TSX.V:RFM).

    BC: Another great company. They’re selling for almost cash too. Same thing. Joint venture model. Very, very smart guys who understand not just geology, but the business of exploration. They’re involved in Western Canada and Australia and a bit in Nevada as well. Actually, I own all three of those you just mentioned—Miranda Gold, Virginia Gold and Rimfire.

    TGR: How about AuEx Ventures Inc. (TSX:XAU)?

    BC: I was just on their project in Nevada as well. Long Canyon, which they joint-ventured out to Fronteer, is an interesting property. They may actually be on to a new legitimate gold discovery in Nevada. It’s in the eastern part of the state, off of the main Carlin and Cortez Trends, but similar style and mineralization to Carlin type deposits. Fronteer has done an excellent job of figuring out the geology. They have four drill rigs plugging away and they hope to have a resource estimate out by early next year. And AuEx, again, smart guys and another company that follows this joint venture model.

    TGR: When you say legitimate new gold discovery, what makes it special?

    BC: So I guess by “legitimate” I mean real. A lot of people claim to find a major discovery, but usually that’s not the case. This is really what I think could be a new gold trend.

    TGR: Earlier you talked about the key being to find the companies that are about to find or announce a discovery, and as you pointed out, by no stretch of the imagination do all of the juniors have that potential.

    BC: Right. I’ve been doing this for a long time and I look at most of these projects and see the ultimate potential—if they’re successful in drilling out what they think they’ve got—is not worth much. It doesn’t make any difference if you find something nobody cares about, which most of the several thousand junior companies are doing. There’s no point investing in any junior exploration company if you don’t see the chance for a 10-for-1 increase in your stock price.

    TGR: The tenfold increase in the stock price is a little bit easier today than it was a year ago.

    BC: Yeah, 20-to-1 is even better at this point. But let’s talk about 10-for-1 potential for a moment. Diamonds North Resources (TSX.V:DDN) raised money at $1.08 and is now trading at about 30 cents. Very, very smart group. Intelligently explored up in Nunavut. Early analysis of the kimberlites showed a good diamond count, good quality diamonds, and now they’ve gone back in and taken some bulk samples. The results should be out within a month or so. If they show large diamonds, this is potentially a 10-bagger.

    TGR: So there’s real potential here to be the 10-bagger; in fact they may find large diamonds.

    BC: They need to find the whole spectrum of diamonds. So far the samples they’ve taken have been mostly micro diamonds. It wasn’t a big enough sample to evaluate the diamond size distribution. Now they’ve taken large enough samples that if they have indications that the diamond size range goes up into the larger sizes, this is potentially a diamond mine. This is the sort of thing that BHP or DeBeers would be looking at.

    TGR: Tell us a little bit about Exploration Insights.

    BC: I’d been working with a number of the newsletter writers—Doug Casey, Brien Lundin, Bob Bishop, Paul van Eeden—and started contributing more and more to Paul’s newsletter. Over the previous two years I generally followed specific stocks while Paul covered the macroeconomic scenario. When he shut down his newsletter in February, I took it over. So it has changed to my newsletter and I basically talk about geology and stocks with an emphasis on what they are actually worth.

    There is a Stock Talk section and a Rant section to the letter. In the stock talk section I specifically talk about stocks we own or are following. Most of my subscribers are fairly involved in doing their own analysis as well so I try to provide numbers, costs and geological interpretations from which they can draw their own conclusions. I also comment on stocks in the news or ones that I get a lot of emails from subscribers asking about. If a stock doesn’t make it into the Exploration Insights portfolio I am not afraid to say why. Generally, in the rant section I give people useful insights into what is happening in the mining and exploration sector as a whole. Also what to look for, how to value properties, mines, deposits, that sort of thing. And we sometimes cover some politics, economics and everything else, too.

    TGR: This is a weekly letter?

    BC: It comes out pretty much weekly. I’m on the road at least half the year but I still manage to get it out most weeks.

    TGR: Your site visits. You get out there and kick the tires, meet management, the whole thing.

    BC: That’s key. I’ve been doing this for 25-plus years and the only edge I’ve got over anyone is that I’ve seen so much that I can recognize a good versus a not-so-good project. The only way to do that is to really go on the ground. Things always look different on the ground, sometimes better but most often worse.

    TGR: And you’re a trained geologist?

    BC: Yes. It helps when you’re looking at geology.

    TGR: Rick Rule speaks pretty highly of you. He says you are a “no nonsense ‘boots on the ground’ geo, not one of the ‘desk explorers’ who cost the investment community so many millions.”

    BC: Yes, I worked with Rick for six years and made him a lot of money, I did OK too. He is probably the smartest investor I’ve come across. I learned a lot from him. I knew geology before I got into this, but I learned about investing from him and how to make money.

    TGR: Rick says easily 80% of the juniors are not worth investing in. And with the other 20% you still have to look at the balance sheets and that will be the real key. He’s a big resource bug; in order for the world to keep going, you need the resources. He’s saying it’s going to be ugly here for the short term, but then the opportunities will start showing themselves.

    BC: I believe he’s right. It seems to me there are a lot of problems to work out of the global financial system still and we could go way past ugly. But further out, the quality mineral deposits and exploration companies you can and will be able to buy now will certainly look like bargains in the rear view mirror.

    Brent Cook, who launched his Exploration Insights newsletter in February 2008, brings more than 25 years of experience to his role as geologist, consultant and investment adviser. His knowledge spans all areas of the mining business from the conceptual stage through to detailed technical and financial modeling related to mine development and production. His hallmarks include applying rigorous factual analysis to the projects and companies he examines, and augmenting his analysis with on-site field evaluations.

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    U.S. Mint Makes Drastic Cuts to Its Collector Gold & Platinum Coin Offerings – Seeking Alpha

    11 Tuesday Nov 2008

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    U.S. Mint Makes Drastic Cuts to Its Collector Gold & Platinum Coin Offerings – Seeking Alpha

    By: Michael Zielinski of 8 Stock Portfolio

    Yesterday the United States Mint announced some sweeping cuts to the number of products that it will offer to coin collectors. The deepest cuts take place in the US Mint’s offerings of collectible versions of gold and platinum bullion coins.

    Most people know about the US Mint’s bullion coin offerings. American Eagle coins composed of gold, silver, and platinum are sold to the public through a network of authorized bullion dealers. In recent years, American Buffalo Gold coins were added to the lineup. These coins are bought and sold primarily as a means of investing in precious metals.

    Since 2006, the US Mint has also offered so-called “collectible” versions of the popular bullion coins for sale directly to the public. The coins have been available in fractional denominations, four coin sets, and one ounce sizes. They are differentiated from the “non-collectible” bullion versions by carrying a “W” mint mark. The coins are also struck on specially burnished blanks and come in custom Mint packaging.  In addition, the US Mint has offered proof versions of bullion coins, which have been sold to collectors for many years.

    The US Mint’s discontinued products (via Mint News Blog) will include:

    • American Buffalo Uncirculated Gold Coins – These are the collectible versions offered by the US Mint. All fractional denominations, 4 coin set, and the one ounce coin will be discontinued.
    • American Buffalo Proof Gold Coins – The fractional 1/2 oz, 1/4 oz, 1/10 oz coins and 4 coin set will be discontinued.
    • American Platinum Eagle Uncirculated Coins – These are the collectible versions offered by the US Mint. All fractional denominations, 4 coin set, and the one ounce coin will be discontinued.
    • American Platinum Eagle Proof Coins – The fractional 1/2 oz, 1/4 oz, 1/10 oz coins and 4 coin set will be discontinued.
    • American Gold Eagle Uncirculated Coins – These are the collectible versions offered by the US Mint. The fractional 1/2 oz, 1/4 oz, 1/10 oz coins and 4 coin set will be discontinued.

    Why are these products being discontinued?

    The US Mint would likely cite low sales figures for the offerings, but that doesn’t get to the root of the problem. Basically, the US Mint has had a disastrous time selling the products over the past few years. This was due in large part to the way the US Mint was required to set prices combined with the extreme fluctuations of precious metals prices over the past few years.

    The US Mint is required to publish prices for upcoming collectible coin products in the Federal Register. This process seems to take about 30 days. As a result, every time these pseudo-bullion coins went on sale, prices were based on precious metals values from up to 30 days ago.  Any time the US Mint wanted to change prices, coin sales had to be suspended for at least 30 days while the publication process took place.

    Throughout 2006 and 2007, sales of these “collectible” bullion coins were suspended numerous times as precious metals prices climbed. Premiums above the precious metal value were in constant flux, since coin prices were fixed and precious metals changed. Typically, premiums would be high at the start of sales, but then lower as precious metals prices climbed. If you timed your purchases right, you could buy the coins for around the same price as the regular bullion coins.

    During 2008, the “collectible” bullion offerings were priced early in the year when precious metals prices were at their highs. As precious metals prices dropped from their peaks, coin prices remained the same, making premiums extraordinarily high. For example, the 2008-W 1 oz. Uncirculated American Gold Eagle is currently priced at $1,119.95 (see US Mint website).  Compare this to the gold value of $742. This premium is ridiculously high for a product slightly better than a bullion coin.

    The only prices that were actually lowered this year were for the platinum products. Following nearly two months of suspension, platinum coins returned with prices approximately halved. Even after the reduction, prices still reflected huge premiums. The 2008-W 1 oz. Uncirculed Platinum Eagle is priced at $1,214.95 (see US Mint website). Compare this to the platinum value of $837. Another ridiculously high premium.

    On the upside, this represents the end of a bad experiment in precious metals products from the US Mint. On the downside, this represents one less way for people to acquire precious metals.

    Disclosure: Long physical gold and platinum.

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    Bob Moriarty: Laying Out a Feast for Bears and Gold Bugs-Gold Report

    07 Friday Nov 2008

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    Bob Moriarty: Laying Out a Feast for Bears and Gold Bugs
    Source: The Gold Report  11/07/2008

     In this exclusive interview with The Gold Report, 321gold.com founder Bob Moriarty provides abundant food for thought about the continuing U.S. financial debacle. Unlike many other observers, he foresees a short-term rally in the stock market but paints a bleak longer-term picture. He expects the ship of state to sink like the Titanic, with precious metals holdings and other “things” the only safety nets on board. Not one to whitewash his opinions, Bob seems to be right more often than not but also freely admits it when he makes mistakes. As he puts it, “When my theories don’t match the facts, I revise my theories.” We conducted the interview over a week ago and all of his predictions seem to be coming true. So far.

    The Gold Report: When you talked to us in early August, you correctly predicted the market crashing in October. But we’ve also seen gold go since then. When do you think gold and the market will turn around?

    Bob Moriarty: In terms of the Australian dollar, the British pound and the Canadian dollar, gold has been hitting new record highs, so gold still has its function as the security of last resort. We’ve had so much deleveraging, with giant hedge funds selling everything they could sell and the only thing left was gold. But the next move in gold is going to be a major move and it’s going to be up.

    TGR: When do you see that happening?

    BM: October is always a really disastrous month for the market, but I think we’ve seen the bottom in the general stock market, in gold and in gold shares.

    TGR: Are you saying that we’re going to see physical gold, gold shares and the market all increase simultaneously?

    BM: Correct.

    TGR: Wow. At the same rate?

    BM: I don’t think so. There’s been something like $3.2 trillion poured into the system. When people think back—I mean, this is an absolute disaster. We have taken the entire banking system, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and AIG, out of the hands of the fools on Wall Street who were running them and handed control over to the fools in Washington. That’s the scariest thing I’ve ever heard. If Wall Street couldn’t run Fannie Mae, why does Washington, DC think it can?

    TGR: Given that sentiment, why would you expect the stock market to increase?

    BM: You constantly run from one extreme to another. You have extremes of emotion on both the bull side and the bear side. If you look back to 1929, there was a giant crash the end of October. The market recovered 50% of what it lost and then continued down through 1932. The market goes up and it goes down. From the gold and gold shares point of view, the decline is entirely artificial. There are probably 100 gold juniors selling for less than the cash they have on hand. They could close the doors and you’d make a profit.

    TGR: One of the things we’re reading as part of the reason gold has fallen is that, amazingly enough, the U.S. dollar has actually been the currency of choice.

    BM: It has been, but you have to understand why the dollar is going up. I’ll go back to my favorite figure—$596 trillion in derivatives. Maybe 9,000 hedge funds were operating in derivatives as if it was a giant casino and they were using Monopoly money. Once things turned south and interest rates started going up and mortgages started defaulting, they had to deleverage. This meant selling all of the positions they could and paying off the loans. But to do that, they need dollars.

    So it’s entirely artificial. If you look at the rise in the dollar since September 27, it increased 12% or 13% in one month. Nobody can conduct business when the currency you use goes either up or down that much in a month’s time. That’s disastrous to business.

    TGR: But it made a fairly rapid downturn earlier in the year. Is going back up now a correction?

    BM: The correction is going to be that it will go back down, and I think it’s going to be a catastrophic decline. Barron’s had a piece recently talking about Taiwan now selling Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds and Treasury bonds. If that continues or if other countries start doing it, it will be catastrophic for the dollar. I think the U.S. is going to default entirely within the next nine to 10 months. Here’s the situation. The U.S. is bankrupt. As anybody who looks at our debts and obligations should be aware, sooner or later we’re going to have to declare bankruptcy.

    TGR: Why wouldn’t we just print more money to pay our way out of it?

    BM: If you go into a store and put down $100 bill and the guy says, “We don’t take $100 bills,” what do you do?

    TGR: You pull out your credit card.

    BM: What if he doesn’t take your credit card? Here’s the flaw and there’s some really scary things going on that nobody thinks about. The U.S. government incurred about $3.2 trillion worth of obligations in the last month and to my knowledge, not a single person asked the really simple question: “Where’s the money going to come from?” There are only three choices. You take it from the taxpayer in taxes and that’s not an alternative. Or you borrow it from the Chinese and that’s not an alternative. Or you print it—but you can only print it as long as people are willing to accept it. The Middle East has already started to talk about not wanting to use the U.S. dollar anymore in currency transactions. It’s too dangerous. So we’re a lot closer to a default than anybody in government wants to admit.

    TGR: If we default, what’s the impact on the worldwide market?

    BM: Strangely enough, the worldwide market’s going to be fine. The U.S. can become a third-world nation. Everybody acts as if U.S. consumers are the only consumers in the world. Well, the Chinese can consume and the Japanese can consume and the Europeans can consume. For the last 60 years, since Bretton Woods, we in the U.S. have been able to consume by writing checks that we had no intention whatsoever of paying and the rest of the world has woken up to the fact that they’re paying for our excess. We’re waging a $3 trillion war in Iraq; we don’t pay for it; the rest of the world does. We borrowed every cent. And will never pay it back.

    TGR: If the U.S. defaults, though, and so many of our bonds are held offshore, those then become illiquid or worth nothing. Wouldn’t that have an impact on the worldwide economy?

    BM: Yes, but it will be a temporary thing. If your brother-in-law is a crack addict, doesn’t have a job and his home goes into foreclosure, it’s bad. But it happens. Businesses go bankrupt and countries go bankrupt. Essentially, Iceland went bankrupt a few weeks ago.

    TGR: And some of the South American countries have waived their debt entirely.

    BM: Argentina did it in 2002. They’re on the verge of doing it again. Believe it or not, Switzerland and Kuwait are on the verge of going bankrupt. It is really bizarre. And it all goes back to derivatives being totally out of control and everyone believing that it was $596 trillion worth of value when, in fact, it was a giant shell game.

    TGR: Given your prediction, how does that jibe with the stock market increasing? Are we going to rise through the next nine months until we go bankrupt or what?

    BM: Yes. Bonds are paper assets, nothing but a promise of payment. Stocks are not paper assets; when you own a stock, you own a real percentage of a company that hopefully is doing something productive. Inflation is not prices increasing, which is what we’ve been led to believe for many years. Inflation is actually an increase in the money supply. When you start increasing money supply the way the U.S. government has over the last month, it results in higher prices for real goods. So you can have this situation where the stock market is increasing in nominal terms but could actually be losing in real terms. Governments always have two different ways to destroy their currency. They can do it through deflation, which is what we’re going through right now, or they can do it through inflation. The government’s doing their best to inflate the dollar and it will go into hyper-inflation. That is just bizarre to me. A $3.2 trillion increase in money supply in a month. That’s a lot.

    You have to deal with a real currency under real rules and real management and provide real products to people who really intend to pay for them. When you get away from that, you create maladjustments or “mal-investments.” There was an enormous investment in U.S. real estate because real interest rates were actually negative. You could borrow 100% of the value of a home. Everybody in the system encouraged people to do this, so they did it. Then instead of getting rid of some of that mal-investment, the U.S. government comes in and says, “We’ll take the very worst cases of management, like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and AIG, and reward them for doing stupid things.” Well, that doesn’t make any sense; it just makes it worse. Everybody on Wall Street’s still going to be getting their Christmas bonus this year, but now it’s courtesy of the American taxpayer.

    TGR: If you have anything left in your portfolio, how do you begin to prepare for the scenario you’re laying out, a potential default by the U.S. government?

    BM: You stay away from U.S. obligations entirely. A lot of people like Richard Russell (Dow Theory Letters) have recommended for years that in times of calamity you go for T-bills and gold. T-bills will be totally worthless someday. No fiat currency lasts forever. They’re not real. I’m suggesting that the financial chaos we’re in now is far worse than anybody can anticipate, even me. And a default by the U.S. government actually would be a good thing because then we could and sit down and say, “Okay, 1) what caused this in the first place? And 2) what do we need to prevent it from happening again?” The solution is quite simple. That’s to go back to a gold standard. But if you go back to a gold standard, you have to have much less government. That would be a really good thing.

    TGR: Given that we’re already on a fiat currency and can print more, will our ship just go down with the presses rolling or will it extend itself longer—a slow sinking as opposed to diving straight to the bottom?

    BM: There’s a really good chance of a catastrophic failure with some of the things that are happening in the Middle East now. There could be a catastrophic freeze-up of the banking system and they could just close the banks worldwide and say, “Okay, we’ll shut everything down for two weeks and sort it out.” There’s a lot of pressure from France and China to fix the problem. I find it very encouraging that people are calling for a new Bretton Woods because that is the solution, to go back and fix what Bretton Woods didn’t do correctly in the first place—and that was to provide an honest gold system.

    TGR: Refresh us a bit on Bretton Woods.

    BM: In 1944 representatives of the 44 free countries in the Allies sat down to establish some financial system for economic post-war rebuilding. They met in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire. Their agreement tied the U.S. dollar to gold and all of their currencies to the dollar in fixed exchange rates. It made the dollar literally as good as gold, so all of the other currencies were as good as gold as long as the dollar was good. But then we started inflating the currency because we could. We also exported our inflation to other countries. And then the Vietnam War came along and in 1971 Richard Nixon told foreign governments they could no longer exchange dollars for gold. What they should have done at Bretton Woods was have everybody go to a gold currency and instead of issuing pesos or francs or reals or dollars, issue units in terms of grams of gold. That way, everybody’s one gram note would be a gram of gold and you would have had total interchangeability among currencies.

    TGR: If we could have a do-over of Bretton Woods, is there currently even enough gold anywhere to be able to tie it the world’s currencies?

    BM: Everybody makes the mistake of thinking that you need a lot of gold for a gold standard. The only thing gold does in a gold standard is give the currency discipline, but that’s why it’s so valuable. If you have discipline with the currency, you don’t have the kind of chaos we have today. Without discipline, you end up with $596 trillion worth of derivatives and nobody in either finance or government saying, “Hey, by the way, that’s a really bad idea.”

    TGR: If it’s not tied to physical gold and we rely on people to show discipline, aren’t we setting ourselves up for the same thing happening again?

    BM: No. I’m not saying you wouldn’t use gold. To restore confidence in the system, you have to use gold. But let me give you an idea of how out-of-control the system is today. If you took the 80 tons of gold that the U.S. supposedly has on deposit in Fort Knox and West Point, that would be $200 billion worth. We have created $3.2 trillion in paper money, 16 times as much, in just the last month. That means it might take a gold price of $50,000 to $250,000 an ounce to actually clear the system, but we do have to clear the system. We have to go back to honest money. If you’ve ever played poker, and somebody sits down and pulls out a Sears credit card, he’ll bet on every card because he isn’t playing with real money.

    TGR: And that’s effectively what’s been going on. So you’re saying you see a rally coming in the Dow, which strangely enough we’re hearing from other people, too, but it’s a short-term rally.

    BM: We’re not going to go to new highs. The problem with variable-value currencies is the value of the currency changes every day. The Dow won’t go to new highs in real dollar terms. It will go higher just because it’s way oversold right now in terms of gold and gold stocks. Historically they are the cheapest they’ve ever been. Gold stocks are trading at the same value that they would trade if gold was $200 today. There’s one particular silver stock I know that’s selling for 20 cents on the dollar.

    TGR: Who’s that?

    BM: Silver Bear Resources Inc. (SBR:TSX). It closed at 20 cents today. It has a market cap of $7.6 million and $32.6 million in the bank. It’s selling at 430% over market cap. I’ve got Triex Minerals at 338% of market cap, International Nickel at 331% of and Uravan Minerals, 300%. These are just unbelievable. Back in 2001, a few stocks—maybe 10 or 20 stocks—sold for less than the cash they had on hand, but now 100 of them selling for less than cash on hand. The value of these stocks is not based on their economic value, but on the fact that everybody’s dumping them like crazy. Look at ATW Gold Corp. (TSX.V:ATW). They have two mines and two mills in Australia, are going into production in March and will produce 50,000 to 100,000 ounces a year and you can buy the gold for about $3 an ounce. That’s nuts.

    TGR: So you recommend investors get real gold. Do you like ETFs at this point?

    BM: Actually, I’m anti-ETF, whether gold or silver. The financial situation is so dangerous that it’s no longer an issue of market risk, nor of whether they have the physical metal. It’s an issue of counterparty risk; that’s the danger today. Is the institution issuing the ETF going to exist if gold goes up $100 a day? Physical gold in hand, not in the safety deposit box, not where governments can get their hands on it, is an insurance policy. It’s still working today even though gold is cheap. Resource stocks and physical holdings are what you want as we head into hyper-inflation.

    TGR: Would you avoid even the Central Fund of Canada (CEF:AMEX)?

    BM: No, the CEF is brilliant. I do like that and that is not an ETF. There’s no counterparty risk there that doesn’t exist with any stock. I would even recommend investors have shares in multiple brokerage companies because it’s entirely possible for one of them (like Lehman Brothers) to go bankrupt. You might still have the assets; you just can’t touch them for six months or a year.

    TGR: When do you see gold climbing? You say it’s at the bottom now, so it could go any day.

    BM: I believe so. It’s going to surprise everybody because it’s been hammered so much, but it’s totally artificial. The price of gold has nothing to do with supply and demand. It’s been hammered by the hedge funds closing their positions and buying dollars to pay off their loans. As soon as the hedge funds let up in their buying, the dollar will tank and gold will go up. A lot of money sitting on the sidelines is looking for a safe place to go. When people start understanding you can buy $100 million worth of mining company for $50 million, they will start doing that.

    TGR: So that’s the specific catalyst. It’s not that the hedge funds will stop buying, but will stop selling.

    BM: Correct. I think they will do that. The last couple of trading days in October tend to be very positive, so it looks as if we sneaked through the worst of it. If we’re not at the bottom yet, we’re very close to it.

    TGR: Some are speculating that the downtrend will continue through the fourth quarter as people readjust for 2008 results.

    BM: The reason there are horse races is everybody has opinions. I’m not giving you fact. I didn’t walk down a mountain with it. It isn’t carved on tablets. It’s my opinion and I could be wrong and I’ve been wrong in the past. Just not very wrong. And not very often.

    TGR: Would you care to comment on a few of our sponsors? How about Animas Resources (TSX.V:ANI)?

    BM: Animas has an entire mining district in Mexico, a very important mining district, and will be releasing assay results any day now. The stock is a third of what it was a month ago and the company’s twice as good as it was a month ago. They will recover. I was encouraging them a year ago was to accelerate plans for getting into production and given today’s environment, I’m sure they’re thinking about that.

    TGR: How about Miranda Gold Corp. (TSX.V:MAD)?

    BM: I was out there two weeks ago. Miranda Gold is in a very big district in the Cortez Trend in Nevada. If they were a pure exploration company, I would be leery, but they’re not. They use the JV model, so they don’t spend their own money. They have JVs with five or six different major companies who spend the money, so Miranda has the ability to have a piece of the big find, but they’re not spending their money. And they have $9 million in cash and a market cap of $6 million. I told them, “Look, guys, you actually are not using your money wisely. Sitting in Canadian dollar T-bills is dangerous. You need to start buying up some of the juniors that are good plays and you need to start buying your own stock.” But you can buy dollar bills from Miranda for 66 cents.

    TGR: How about Rare Element Resources (TSX.V:RES)?

    BM: Rare Element’s an interesting situation. Somebody I know who is the expert in rare elements says there are two plays there. An alkaline gold deposit is being drilled by Newmont, who’s the major partner—and again, Rare Element is not spending its own money; Newmont is spending the money. And Rare Element is drilling a rare element deposit that could be economic, with the emphasis on the “could be.”

    TGR: When will they know?

    BM: Soon, very soon. Rare elements is really a spooky area; the chemistry, the mineralogy—just all kinds of issues. It’s a very difficult field. Even though the demand for rare earths is going through the roof, just because you’ve got a deposit doesn’t mean you have an economic deposit. I can’t say it’s economic, but they’re bringing in the guy I think knows more about rare elements than anyone else in the world, and he will be able to say whether it’s economic. Rare Element is another company that’s real good, well cashed up, and has Newmont spending the money.

    TGR: How about Pediment Exploration Ltd. (TSX.V:PEZ) (PEZFF:OTCBB)?

    BM: Pediment has three or four really good projects. They’ve got a deposit in the Baja that is absolutely a production story and I’ve been beating on Gary (Freeman) to get this damn thing in production. I think they have about $18 or $20 million in cash, so they’re very well cashed-up. They have another deposit up in the Sonora district, a mine and a mill that I think will be getting into production, too.

    TGR: Do they also use the JV model?

    BM: They do on some of the projects. They have JVs on two or three deposits that we don’t hear that much about but that have significant potential The project down in the Baja they’re doing strictly themselves, and also the project at La Colorada, although they might use contract miners to put it into production.

    TGR: Any comments on First Majestic Silver Corp. (TSX:FR) (PK SHEET:FRMSF)?

    BM: One of the best-run, soon-to-be mid-tier silver companies in Mexico and I happen to really like silver and I happen to really like Mexico. First Majestic is a great company.

    TGR: One of the companies coming across our radar screen a lot just because people are following it is Great Panther Resources (TSX.V:GPR).

    BM: Great Panther. I love them. I was the first newsletter writer to visit the project; I saw it literally as Bob Archer was negotiating for it. They are another good, soon-to-be mid-tier silver producer. They have two or three producing projects there now. They’re increasing their resources, well cashed-up, excellent management, and the same thing’s true of Endeavor Silver.

    TGR: What about Evolving Gold Corp. (TSX.V:EVG) (OTCBB:EVOGF)?

    BM: Interesting situation. They will be coming out with assays in the next week or two on an alkaline deposit up in Wyoming. It’s a diatreme, which is a fairly predictable volcanic structure and they’ve already had some excellent drill results. If the new drill results confirm the old drill results, they probably have a pretty good size deposit. Alkaline systems like Cripple Creek in Colorado tend to be very big.

    Evolving Gold went out and got financed a year ago based on a theory that they had an extension of the Getchell Trend and the Carlin Trend in Nevada. They really over-promoted it, but they did get cashed-up and they brought some new management in. The new management said the problem there in Nevada is that they are very deep and expensive holes. One hole out of 20 actually hits something, but when it hits something, it’s a monster deposit. They decided they would be better off with a JV model on that.

    TGR: Do they have a joint venture partner in mind?

    BM: Actually, they put the Nevada project on the back burner. They’re doing some drilling, but the deep drilling—sometimes 3,000 or 4,000 feet—is very difficult from a technical point of view and very expensive. They have drilled some holes this year and are still waiting for results, but I would far rather see that as part of a JV.

    TGR: When we talked a few months ago, looking forward to see what sectors would emerge or survive, you indicated energy and focused specifically on oil. What do you think today, and where do renewables and alternative energy fit in?

    BM: Alternative energy is viable. I had mentioned oil only because our entire system is based around oil. Like natural resources or gold or silver or metals, any energy investment should be safe for the future. Peak oil is very real and the Chinese are expanding like crazy and using more energy all the time. Natural gas is good, coal is good, nuclear is good. Renewables, unfortunately, are a 3% solution. Wind power’s another 3% solution. It’s never going to be anything but a 3% solution. Guys like Boone Pickens can spend millions encouraging people to invest in wind power, but our current infrastructure will not support it. It’s not just a question of investing in the wind power; you have to invest in the infrastructure as well and nobody ever wants to talk about that.

    TGR: Where’s a comfortable range for oil?

    BM: Somewhere in the $80 to $110 range. But that will be increasing because peak oil, in fact, is real. Oil production peaked in May of 2005 and peak oil also means peak food.

    TGR: So you’d say this is a time to hunker down.

    BM: It is time to hunker down, but I would like to say there are some very encouraging things. The Fourth Turning, written about 10 years ago, actually forecast this chaos that’s coming. And the fellow’s point of the book was that better times are coming. You go to absolutely insane extremes—which I think everybody can agree we have—and then you go back to sanity. Even during the depression, families came closer together because they had time for each other. They may have not had money to do things they were doing before, but it did bring the families closer together. Money is the journey; not the destination.

    Bob Moriarty and his wife, Barb, launched 321gold.com as a private website seven years ago, when they were convinced gold and silver were at a bottom and wanted to help others understand what they needed to know about investing in resource stocks. Since then, they’ve introduced a second resource site, 321energy.com. Bob travels to dozens of mining projects a year. He was one of the first analysts to write about NovaGold, Northern Dynasty, Silver Standard, Running Fox and YGC Resources, among others. Prior to his Internet career, Bob was a Marine F-4B pilot at the age of 20 and a veteran of over 820 missions in Viet Nam. Becoming a Captain in the Marines at 22, he was one of the most highly decorated pilots in the war.

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    Emerging Metal Miners Attractive to Value Investors – Seeking Alpha

    07 Friday Nov 2008

    Posted by jschulmansr in commodities, Copper, deflation, diamonds, Finance, gold, hard assets, inflation, Investing, investments, Latest News, Markets, mining stocks, precious metals, silver, Uncategorized

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    Emerging Metal Miners Attractive to Value Investors – Seeking Alpha

    By: Mike Niehuser of Beacon Rock Research

    There appears to be an enhanced investment opportunity for long-term value investors in emerging producers selling near cost of investment or book value. We see the mining sector gaining in interest for value investors as they screen for companies selling at 52-week lows, below book value, and with potential to expand margins and earnings. Wholesale redemptions by investors, along with tax loss selling in both the U.S. and Canada, are creating opportunities for value investors looking to acquire companies with both real assets and the potential for increasing production.

    Reduced global lending and investment, which caused a shortage of liquidity, has resulted in a deflationary environment unfavorable to commodities, including precious and base metal prices. Recent actions by governments and central banks are largely inflationary, which should lead to higher gold and silver prices as banks begin to lend and invest. A reduction in credit risk should spur a resumption of global growth, increasing demand for commodities and leading to higher base metal prices. While this cycle appears inevitable to long-term investors, this scenario may be delayed by credit markets or anti-growth policies including protectionism, higher taxes, and increased regulation.

    It follows that deflation in the near term should be favorable for companies that have cash or the ability to operate profitably at current metal prices. Clearly, the inflationary environment in the mining industry in 2007 has reversed and costs of labor, materials and supplies are moderating or declining. Recent declines in the price of fuel lifts a burden on both operating profits and the barrier to resumption of economic growth. As this situation persists, should metal prices rebound, margins will also expand, leading to potentially significant appreciation for emerging producers above current levels.

    China continues to be important for sustained economic growth through wealth accumulation and investment in infrastructure. Despite concerns over declining rates of growth, China still maintains near double-digit annual growth rates. The ongoing demand for precious metals as a store of value, and base metals for the production of goods and infrastructure, remains immense. China’s 1.3 billion people consumed $1.2 trillion last year, while America’s 300 million consumed $9.7 trillion. While China is criticized for a lack of domestic markets, this situation may be revered as financed by its central bank’s reserves, largely composed of U.S. treasuries.

    NovaGold’s market cap is significantly less than the sum of the book value of its three major projects: 

    NovaGold Resources Inc.’s (NG) market cap is currently about $317 million, which is only slightly higher than the book value of its Rock Creek gold mine including property, plant, and equipment, plus development costs. This would imply that the market is currently attributing no value for NovaGold’s share of its 50% ownership in its two world-class projects, the partnership with Barrick Gold Corporation (ABX) on the Donlin Creek gold project and with Teck Cominco Ltd. (TCK) on the Galore Creek copper-gold project. NovaGold’s share of the total investment in property, plant, and equipment plus development costs at Donlin Creek is $238 million, with $360 million on the Galore Creek project, for a total of $868 million on these three main assets. NovaGold’s market capitalization is about one third of its share of the capitalized investment in these projects.

    NovaGold Gold Pour, Rock Creek Mine, Nome, Alaska

    Source: NovaGold

    We understand that Barrick is working toward completion of a Feasibility Study on Donlin Creek by 1Q09. This would mean that a majority of NovaGold’s 50% ownership of this gold resource of 31.7 million Measured and Indicated ounces should move into the reserve category and allow for the start of the permit process. In addition, Teck Cominco is anticipated to provide an update on a new design plan for the Galore Creek project, which would be the basis for an updated Feasibility Study and initiation of permitting. Continued development by Barrick and Teck Cominco should assure markets, leading to NovaGold’s market cap appreciating toward total book value.

    NovaGold is in the process of commissioning its Rock Creek gold mine in Nome, Alaska, and has recently completed its first gold pour. NovaGold is scheduled to produce 100,000 ounces annually, generating an estimated $25-$35 million in 2009, at an average cash cost of $500 per ounce. NovaGold is working to increase the resource to extend the mine life to ten years. Management estimates that production from the Rock Creek mine, plus cash on hand and proceeds of other non-core assets, should provide funds for planned activities for the next twelve months. NovaGold remains a viable company with significantly undervalued and unrecognized assets.

    Etruscan’s market cap is less than the book value of its Youga gold mine which does not include the development potential of projects in West Africa:

    Etruscan Resources Inc.’s (ETRUF.PK) market cap is currently about $73 million, which is less than its investment in property, plant, and equipment, plus development costs for the Youga Gold project of about $109 million. The Youga Gold Mine produced 7,450 ounces of gold in October; this was about 14% above September production of 6,572 ounces of gold, and 11% above estimated average monthly production. We suspect that with further optimization, production may continue to exceed published scheduled production, important to build its treasury to fund further development. Cash costs should improve through project stabilization to an estimated $450 per ounce for the life of the mine. The project includes a program to limit price exposure of the gold price on the downside to $629 per ounce.

    The current market cap does not appear to reflect Etruscan’s other assets. Etruscan may have the largest land position of any mining company in West Africa. We are looking for additional reports on their Bitou project about 35 kilometers from the Youga Gold Mine and new discoveries in southwest Ghana. We are also quite keen on further developments on its recently announced rare earth deposit in Namibia. As the market cap of the company is now less than the construction cost or book value of the Youga Gold Mine, value investors have the upside to increasing gold prices, as well as exploration in West Africa, Namibia, and its diamond assets in South Africa.

    Minefinders’ market cap is close to book value and half base case economic study of Dolores mine:

    Minefinders Corporation Ltd. (MFN) has a market cap of about $250 million, slightly above the book value of its Dolores gold-silver mine in Chihuahua, Mexico. Current book value of the Dolores mine, including property, plant, and equipment plus development costs, totaled $203 million as of the end of June 2008. The total budget for the project is $191 million, which includes about $10 million for contingency, with available cash and credit to complete construction. Incidentally, Minefinders recently negotiated an additional $10 million in credit for additional working capital.

    Minefinders recently began leaching ore, a major milestone, and anticipates its first gold and silver production in the next few weeks. Previously they had targeted producing 10,000 ounces of gold and 350,000 ounces of silver in the remainder of 2008. They report crushing at a rate of 15,000 tpd, close to the design capacity of 18,000 tpd. Estimated operating cost for gold equivalent during ramp up may range from $400 to $450 per gold equivalent ounce, declining to $297 per gold equivalent ounce over the average life of the mine, scheduled for 15 years.

    The Dolores open pit mine currently has 99.3 million tonnes of Proven and Probable reserves, containing 2.44 million ounces gold and 126.6 million ounces of silver. The most recent economic study estimated an NPV at a discount rate of 3% to be $563 million (metal assumptions of $675 gold and $13 silver). The study did not include the potential benefit of adding a 3,000 tpd flotation circuit to increase recoveries of gold and silver in the pit, or located in a high-grade gold-silver resource below and parallel to the identified reserve. As Minefinder’s market capitalization is close to the book value of its investment, and less than one half of its base case economic study, we also consider the company to be significantly undervalued and of interest to value investors.

    Mercator’s market cap is less than almost half book value and profitable at significantly lower metal prices:

    Mercator Minerals Ltd.’s (MLKKF.PK) market cap is currently about $72 million. As of June 30, 2008 the book value of its Mineral Park mine near Kingman, Arizona, including property, plant, and equipment and development costs was over $141 million. The original budget for both phases of the 50,000 tpd facility ($128 million for stage one and $62 million for stage two) is about $200 million. Mercator is completing commissioning and anticipates production in the near term and has completed and paid for about 40% of stage two.

    The first stage of the Mineral Park mine was financed by debt. The balance of the second phase will be paid out of cash flow from the first phase, remaining cathode copper production, and cash from the sale of its silver stream to Silver Wheaton Corp. (SLW). The mine has an estimated life of 25 years, and with a strip ratio of only 0.18, the project has good economics. Cost of production, assuming a 50-50 split for production of copper and molybdenum (net silver credits from Silver Wheaton), is estimated at $1.28 per pound and $6.49 per pound, respectively.

    Their pre-feasibility study, assuming metal prices of $1.53 copper, $10.16 molybdenum, and $7.50 silver (prior to the sale to Silver Wheaton), estimated an after-tax IRR of 51% and NPV of $426 million with a 1.8 year payback of capital. As Mercator’s market capitalization is about one-quarter the estimated value of the pre-feasibility study and one-half the book value of the Mineral Park mine, the company should be of interest to risk averse value investors.

    Acadian’s market cap is less than Scotia mine book value and replacement value not including significant gold assets:

    Acadian Mining Corporation’s (ADGLF.PK) market cap is about $14 million. This is less than one-half book value of their Scotia Mine operation in Nova Scotia, including property, plant, and equipment plus development costs of approximately C$30 million. This includes the cost to acquire the mothballed Scotia Mine and bring it into production. Management estimates the replacement cost of the Scotia Mine to be about C$100 million.

    Acadian brought the operation into production in 2007 on time but faced challenges in early 2008 due to difficult weather conditions. This was followed by declining zinc and lead prices. Management estimates an operating breakeven rate of $0.55 per pound zinc-lead, and overall company breakeven of $0.59 per pound zinc-lead. This was prior to the decline in the Canadian Dollar to the U.S. Dollar, which benefited Acadian, as their costs are in Canadian Dollars. Prior to declining metal prices, management implemented an aggressive cost reduction program, with plans to resume development of its gold assets in 2009.

    Acadian has a gold resource in Nova Scotia of about 1.6 million ounces. When Acadian acquired the Scotia Mine it was expected to centrally process gold resources. Record zinc and lead prices accommodated restart of the mine as previously designed. Should base metals stabilize at lower levels, we expect management to revisit the original concept of processing gold ore. We estimate this could be accomplished in six to eight months at a cost of C$5 to C$10 million.

    Disclosure: The author is long NG, ETRUF.PK, MFN, and ADAIF.PK. An affiliate of the author’s employer provides corporate advisory services to NG, ETRUF.PK, MFN, MLKKF.PK and ADAIF.PK.

    My Note: I am also long NG and am looking at the others-jschulmansr

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    Junior Gold Miners Are Dirt Cheap – Seeking Alpha

    06 Thursday Nov 2008

    Posted by jschulmansr in commodities, Copper, deflation, diamonds, Finance, gold, hard assets, inflation, Investing, investments, Latest News, Markets, mining stocks, precious metals, silver, Uncategorized

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    Junior Gold Miners Are Dirt Cheap- Seeking Alpha

    By: Graham Summers of GPS Capital Research

    Wrong again!

    Numerous pundits have made a big deal of stocks’ recent rally and gold’s plunge. Some even went so far as to claim that gold has lost its “safe haven” status. They’re horribly mistaken.

    For one thing, gold has held up incredibly well compared to both stocks AND commodities this year. Stocks have fallen 32% in 2008 thus far. Oil is down 26%. Zinc is down 58%. Gold is only down 16%.

    In simple terms: Had you put all of your money in gold at the beginning of 2008, you would have outperformed virtually every asset class in existence. It’s also worth considering that much of the downward pressure in gold has come predominantly from the “paper” market.

    As I’ve written on these pages before, the physical or bullion market in gold is extremely tight due to unprecedented demand. The US Mint has stopped producing several coins because it cannot keep up with investors’ appetite for bullion. Indeed, most bullion dealers are now charging premiums of 8-9%. This time last year premiums were only 2-3%.

    However, due to institutional liquidations and outright manipulation in the paper market, gold struggles to clear even $800 an ounce. And while the paper market for gold has been hit pretty hard, gold mining stocks, particularly the juniors, have been absolutely creamed.

    It’s not hard to see why.

    An individual gold mining junior might have a daily dollar volume of $5-$10 million. Even smaller hedge funds ($50 million in assets) could crush one of these with a $1-2 million sale (never mind intentional crushing from shorts).

    The result is that gold mining stocks are at historic lows relative to the price of gold. If you go back to 1984, mining stocks have only been this cheap relative to the price of gold two other times: 1986 and 2001, both of which were around the END of BEAR markets.

    In fact, today, numerous gold juniors are so cheap that they’re trading below book value. Let me put this in perspective: at these levels these companies are cheaper than their mining assets alone. By buying today you are essentially getting the gold reserves for FREE. Below is a screen I ran last week. The data comes from Yahoo! Finance.

    Company Name Symbol Market Cap Total Cash Total Debt Price/ Book
    NEVSUN RESOURCES
    NSU
    41.0M
    59.9M
    0
    0.966
    RICHMONT MINES
    RIC
    37.2M
    25.2M
    0
    0.801
    KIMBER RESOURCES
    KBX
    27.2M
    5.5M
    0
    0.799
    ALLIED NEVADA GOLD
    ANV
    107.2M
    51.6M
    2.2M
    0.709
    ENTREE GOLD
    EGI
    47.0M
    61.9M
    0
    0.698
    VISTA GOLD NEW
    VGZ
    32.0M
    33.4M
    22.4M
    0.601
    KEEGAN RES
    KGN
    13.1M
    10.2M
    0
    0.547
    CENTRAL SUN MINING
    SMC
    7.2M
    4.7M
    0
    0.177
    OREZONE RES
    OZN
    57.1M
    13.2M
    0
    0.165

    The most common accusation leveled against gold juniors is that the credit crisis will stop them from receiving the credit necessary to fund their operations. However, as the above table shows, many of these companies are already sitting on substantial cash hoards. In addition, some that are already producing gold throw off enough cash to fund their operations without additional loans or credit.

    I can’t tell you when gold will finally break to new highs again. And I certainly cannot vouch for the above companies as being great investments (I haven’t done nearly enough research to formally recommend any of them). But one thing I can tell you is that taken as a whole, gold mining stocks are at extremely cheap levels relative to the price of gold. If you’re looking for value in today’s market, this is a great place to start.

    My Note: I have a long position in all of these stocks and am adding to them-jschulmansr

     

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